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06:31 < waxwing> tumble from a small wallet in progress in testpit. realistic parameters, so it'll be slow.
06:40 < waxwing> yesterday i had the thought (perhaps obvious) that offers should include a coin age parameter so that takers can filter their orderbook based on which makers are prepared to accept their commitment utxos.
06:41 < waxwing> makers could of course lie about what they'll accept; but that's already true
06:42 < waxwing> it could allow for a more stratified market where takers can make a privacy/convenience tradeoff. but having people stick with defaults might be the more sensible way, at least at the start. too much choice is a real cognitive barrier.
07:01 < waxwing> hmm, maybe not; i forgot that the lying can go both ways; the maker can lie in the sense of 'i'll do this tx' and then not do it, as a DoS effect; that's what i meant above. but he can also lie saying 'i only accept utxos with 5 confirmations' but then accept those with only 1. Thus he'd be claiming to be more hardened for privacy than he is, to get more business. So maybe creating such a stratification is not realistic. Don't know.
07:02 < waxwing> i guess one can worry too much; it's in everyone's interest to actually increase the privacy. malintent from maker is always a possibility anyway; they may themselves be snoopers.
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09:00 <+JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato] if a maker announces he only takes >5 confirmation utxos... he cant really lie about that, because no sane taker would try to join with him with his younger UTXOs? So just the announcement makes him lose business imo, and there's not upside for him announcing to only taking older ones
09:01 < onefox> could it be that the spammer is gone? iam getting like 20 joins a day again :)
09:01 <+JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato] spammer is still active
09:01 <+JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato] he doesnt affect your other joins, never did
09:06 < onefox> with him it was like i was blocked, the days i got plenty of his fake jobs in my log i didn't got many joins, now he is less in my logs and i get more real jobs done
09:53 < waxwing> onefox: no it wouldn't have affected it at all.
09:53 < waxwing> one factor (there could be many) is if there's just less other ygs around
09:56 < waxwing> alexcato, yes probably, it's rather confusing when you try to think of it as a market.
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