--- Day changed Sun Aug 14 2016 00:25 < waxwing> "not enough counterparties to fill order, ending" (line before) 00:28 < nkuttler> doh, thanks 01:11 < GithubBot5678> [joinmarket] nkuttler opened pull request #603: Quote csv values of wallet-history script (develop...develop_history_quote_csv) https://git.io/v6zmQ 02:02 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:59 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@143-6-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Quit: lnostdal] 04:15 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x4db06fb7.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 04:19 -!- fqtw [~me@x4db06fb7.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:56 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@143-6-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined #joinmarket 05:02 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 05:07 < waxwing> so i did a full tumbler run OK yesterday, from a "fresh" wallet. it was necessary to add a few external utxos to the commitment set. i did this using two simple scripts (which I'll merge into one), that allow you to enter a utxo and then "sign for" the newly created commitments by entering the privkey on the command line. 05:08 < waxwing> even if it is streamlined properly, this is a bit of a big barrier for someone wanting to run a tumbler script from scratch (i.e. with a newly created jm wallet). i'm thinking about how this should go, how it can be made reasonable for a user. 05:09 < waxwing> the problem is partly avoided by using long waits (> 5 blocks) between transactions in the script, but that's suboptimal. 05:10 < waxwing> (i should say "enter a utxo then sign for commitments: i mean, take 1 utxo and split it into several with a preparatory transaction; this is optional of cousre, you could just enter say 3 utxos you already have) 05:10 < waxwing> N utxos x3 (you're allowed to use each utxo 3 times in the current setup) 05:18 < waxwing> nkuttler: i'll merge those two into develop now, will have to figure out the right way to apply 0.2.0 when it's finished, but there's already a small divergence anyway 05:18 < GithubBot5678> [joinmarket] AdamISZ pushed 2 new commits to develop: https://git.io/v6zC1 05:18 < GithubBot5678> joinmarket/develop 5057226 Nicolas Kuttler: Quote csv values... 05:18 < GithubBot5678> joinmarket/develop f0409b7 Adam Gibson: Merge pull request #603 from nkuttler/develop_history_quote_csv... 05:24 < waxwing> see comment on other one, might be better to move it over 05:51 < waxwing> the root problem is having to sign for something (an exotic kind of signing in this case). everything else can be made relatively easy for a user. 06:11 < waxwing> it may be sufficient (and probably this is the right concept) to simply directly "send to many" from your funding wallet. Example: want to start a tumbler run with 1 BTC, send 0.25 x 4 to each of 4 addresses in the joinmarket wallet, instead of send 1BTC to 1. Electrum has this, i presume many(?) wallets have it; the extra cost is tiny, and then you have 12 commitments available at the start without any messing around with "exotic signing" and other 06:11 < waxwing> scripts. 06:12 < waxwing> this would still require waiting N(=5) blocks before starting, though. 06:14 < waxwing> no, not so simple; because mixdepths are emptied one at a time, so you may have 12 at the start (if all 4 in mixdepth 0), but then after first mixdepth sweep, you have only the new utxos. 06:31 -!- fqtw [~me@x4db022ac.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 06:34 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x4db06fb7.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:27 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has joined #joinmarket 07:35 -!- onefox [~onefox@p5DCE42AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 08:09 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 08:23 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x4db296b9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 08:26 -!- fqtw [~me@x4db022ac.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:00 -!- fqtw__ [~me@x4db296b9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 09:03 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x4db296b9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:22 -!- fqtw [~me@x4db259c9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 09:25 -!- fqtw__ [~me@x4db296b9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:47 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x590c03b2.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 09:50 -!- fqtw [~me@x4db259c9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:27 -!- fqtw [~me@x4db01e40.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 10:27 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x590c03b2.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:29 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x590d5fd3.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 10:32 -!- fqtw [~me@x4db01e40.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:09 -!- dee-vee [~dv@root-core.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:10 -!- dee-vee [~dv@root-core.org] has joined #joinmarket 12:24 -!- fqtw [~me@x590d8829.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 12:27 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x590d5fd3.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:23 -!- onefox [~onefox@p5DCE42AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:23 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x590d82fd.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 13:26 -!- fqtw [~me@x590d8829.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:12 -!- unwantedEquity [~unwantedE@vpn.ddosshield.net] has joined #joinmarket 14:13 -!- unwantedEquity is now known as ajvpot 15:12 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:52 -!- Giszmo [~leo@178-83-12-152.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:27 -!- fqtw_ is now known as fqtw 18:26 -!- jm_user_ [jclofk@bitcoinshell.mooo.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:32 -!- jm_user_ [jclofk@bitcoinshell.mooo.com] has joined #joinmarket 19:10 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x4db05c84.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 19:13 -!- fqtw [~me@x590d82fd.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:31 < opal> [AMSG] JOIN IRC.OFTC.NET #LINODE FOR BIGMATIX LIVE 22:32 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has joined #joinmarket 23:28 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] _o< sorry that was necessary >o_ 23:28 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] _o< its over now though >o_ 23:28 <+JM-IRCRelay> [opal] _o< sadly >o_ 23:38 -!- fqtw__ [~me@x4db05c84.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 23:41 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x4db05c84.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:42 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket