--- Day changed Sun Aug 28 2016 00:49 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:17 -!- sturles_ is now known as sturles 02:37 < adlai> waxwing: joinmarket.me is showing the default nginx landing page 02:37 < adlai> and /ob is 404 02:38 * adlai revives http://adlai.uncommon-lisp.org:8080/ 02:54 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:55 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@227-181-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:02 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@227-181-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined #joinmarket 03:02 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@227-181-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:05 < waxwing> it was down yesterday but it's up now? 03:06 < waxwing> adlai: ? 03:20 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 03:32 < adlai> my thing or yours? 03:32 < adlai> mine crashes periodically, haven't looked into the cause yet 03:37 < waxwing> mine. i checked it when you wrote that, it's up. 03:37 < waxwing> yesterday, it was down for several hours at least, but i restarted everything ~ 24 hours ago. 03:38 < waxwing> quite reasonably people start asking: https://www.reddit.com/r/joinmarket/comments/4zve0d/can_we_get_an_update_on_020_progress/ 03:39 < waxwing> does anyone have any thoughts? belcher_ ? i got the vague impression you were thinking of reviewing it? 03:39 < waxwing> i still have no Tor-connectable IRC server. that isn't necessarily a block. 03:39 < waxwing> i also would have to update README and a few bits and pieces of instructions. 03:40 < waxwing> i've spent the last few days looking into another approach for a message channel, but that's not going to "land" any time soon. 03:41 < waxwing> no *other* Tor-connectable IRC server is what i meant of course. 03:48 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@227-181-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined #joinmarket 03:48 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@227-181-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:50 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@227-181-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined #joinmarket 04:23 < adlai> az4jkp3ko2snghk4.onion:6667 05:15 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 06:26 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:27 < waxwing> adlai: thanks, that seems to work (bot connected anyway). does the HS have a web interface (doesnt seem to on port 80)? 06:36 < adlai> nope, put it up just now 06:37 < waxwing> adlai: so it's yours? 06:37 < adlai> yep 06:37 < waxwing> duh dumb question :) 06:40 < waxwing> not getting it, guess it might take a few minutes 06:42 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #joinmarket 06:43 < waxwing> ah so miniircd i guess 06:50 < adlai> yes 06:55 < waxwing> adlai: are you running them out of the same directory? 06:55 < waxwing> the ygs on there i mean 06:57 < adlai> yes 06:58 < waxwing> yeah this is a problem. it doesn't work like that. 06:58 < waxwing> because the commitments tracking file (cmttools/commitments.json) is being updated by all of them, so when one sees the commitment it blacklists for all. 06:58 < waxwing> sorry my mistake. the "blacklist" file on the top level. 06:58 < adlai> still works, just makes it more expensive 06:59 < waxwing> well no, problem is if i choose more than one of yours, the second one will reject the new utxo commitment. 06:59 < adlai> wouldn't that result in joining with a wider variety of counterparties? 07:00 < waxwing> it can have that effect in the recovery code, yes 07:00 < adlai> i'm eliminating the chance that somebody will join twice with me in the same tx 07:00 < waxwing> but in this scenario, where it's all you, it goes screwy and doesn't work. also even if it did work, i'd have to use up more than one try. 07:01 < waxwing> a natural response might be "well we should have separate lists for each bot" but that's complicated, the idea is the list is supposed to be global for the user, so when you restart you don't forget all the previous usages. 07:01 < adlai> i think we have enough bots in the pit that it works... at least for the -N values that i've tried 07:02 < waxwing> let me look at the maker code again. 07:02 < waxwing> yes it will tend to work (it's been working fine in CgAn and the other servers), but that's mainly because people are not running multiple bots off one directory. 07:02 < waxwing> at one point nkuttler i think was doing that and it was blocking spends. 07:03 < waxwing> i was specifically testing your new ircd and i can't get a tx through for this reason. i'll look at the maker code again, maybe there is another angle here. 07:04 < adlai> ah, yeah. if i'm the only one there it won't work 07:05 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:10 < waxwing> i think this was an unnecessary restriction on my part. i have it appending to the blacklist immediately on checking the blacklist, but those are two separate operations. i can have it appended (and broadcast) once the actual usage operation occurs (when the !ioauth is sent). thinking. 07:26 < waxwing> i could come up with a weak counterargument based on ease of speculative re-use, but really the above seems .. obvious? i guess i just missed it. going to code and test then. 07:37 -!- mkarrer [~mkarrer@159.red-83-47-122.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:37 -!- mkarrer [~mkarrer@159.red-83-47-122.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #joinmarket 08:17 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:18 -!- giel__ [~giel____@k14057.upc-k.chello.nl] has joined #joinmarket 08:19 -!- giel__ [~giel____@k14057.upc-k.chello.nl] has quit [Changing host] 08:19 -!- giel__ [~giel____@unaffiliated/gielbier] has joined #joinmarket 08:30 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #joinmarket 08:49 < waxwing> adlai: pushed a fix for that scenario, as per the above. pls update when you have a chance, i'd like to confirm it can work with multiple bots sharing blacklist on your ircd. thanks. 08:50 < waxwing> (passed the tests) 10:23 -!- berndj [~berndj@197.242.93.84] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 10:25 -!- berndj [~berndj@197.242.93.84] has joined #joinmarket 10:25 -!- berndj [~berndj@197.242.93.84] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 10:27 -!- berndj [~berndj@197.242.93.84] has joined #joinmarket 10:34 -!- berndj [~berndj@197.242.93.84] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:37 -!- berndj [~berndj@197.242.93.84] has joined #joinmarket 11:03 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@227-181-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Quit: https://QuantAtaraxia.pw/] 11:03 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@227-181-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined #joinmarket 11:50 -!- giel___ [~giel____@k14057.upc-k.chello.nl] has joined #joinmarket 11:52 -!- giel__ [~giel____@unaffiliated/gielbier] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:14 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@227-181-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Quit: https://QuantAtaraxia.pw/] 12:38 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-40-227-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 14:34 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@227-181-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined #joinmarket 15:12 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 15:19 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:24 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #joinmarket 15:26 -!- Cory [~C@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:29 -!- Pasha [~C@unaffiliated/cory] has joined #joinmarket 15:35 -!- Pasha is now known as Cory 15:56 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzmmpdqitefesuru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:32 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gwhpjetiqopbwula] has joined #joinmarket 16:37 -!- zmachine [uid67411@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ihrzslteuvcuxgnl] has joined #joinmarket 16:44 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:40 -!- arubi [~ese168@unaffiliated/arubi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:41 -!- arubi [~ese168@unaffiliated/arubi] has joined #joinmarket 17:44 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:57 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gwhpjetiqopbwula] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:48 -!- zmachine [uid67411@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ihrzslteuvcuxgnl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:34 < luke-jr> would it be mean to write a bot that always outbids everyone else? <.< 20:37 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-40-227-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:21 < sturles> A negative fee is possible, I guess, so no. It would be very kind. :-) 23:41 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jmjforsuzskisdhv] has joined #joinmarket