--- Day changed Mon Sep 19 2016 01:47 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:48 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 02:26 -!- HeySteve [~Lizard__W@196-210-191-242.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #joinmarket 02:26 -!- HeySteve [~Lizard__W@196-210-191-242.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Changing host] 02:26 -!- HeySteve [~Lizard__W@unaffiliated/heysteve] has joined #joinmarket 02:41 -!- twokun [~two@89.238.166.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:56 -!- OverlordQ [~ovrlrdq@199.101.100.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:56 -!- OverlordQ [~ovrlrdq@199.101.100.58] has joined #joinmarket 04:49 -!- twokun [~two@46.19.137.116] has joined #joinmarket 05:00 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@27-245-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined #joinmarket 05:13 -!- fqtw [~me@77.177.31.154] has joined #joinmarket 05:16 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x4db2b50a.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:21 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x590d22cf.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 05:24 -!- fqtw [~me@77.177.31.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:31 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:17 -!- mrkent [~textual@unaffiliated/mrkent] has joined #joinmarket 06:30 -!- mrkent [~textual@unaffiliated/mrkent] has quit [] 06:44 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 07:30 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-40-227-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 07:33 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@27-245-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:49 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@27-245-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined #joinmarket 08:03 -!- twokun [~two@46.19.137.116] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:12 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:45 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 08:49 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:03 -!- twokun [~two@46.19.137.116] has joined #joinmarket 09:28 -!- fqtw__ [~me@x590d22cf.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 09:31 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x590d22cf.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:34 < arubi> waxwing, what does nick keypair persistence means? 10:35 <@waxwing> arubi: see here: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/JoinMarket-Docs/blob/master/Joinmarket-messaging-protocol.md#pubkey-based-nicks 10:36 <@waxwing> that's all ephemeral, so, if you had to register in advance then you'd have to store the private key. but anyway i think it's bad if we have to use a fixed nick anywhere. 10:36 -!- fqtw [~me@x590d22cf.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 10:36 -!- fqtw__ [~me@x590d22cf.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:36 <@waxwing> some people seem to choose to do it at the moment, i guess i can understand it, but it's probably not a good thing (arguable perhaps) 10:37 < arubi> hm. so semi related is that freenode offers certfp as well for identification to nickserv 10:37 < arubi> which means you end up keeping some private key anyway after you registered 10:38 -!- Guest9601 [~RelayBot@155.198.208.233] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:38 < arubi> but -- I asked staff a while ago and it seems that peers can't tell the fingerprint you're using to identify with, although you can see it when you whois yourself 10:39 < arubi> s/although/even though 10:39 < arubi> anyway, I thought it might be cool to have a use for that for bitcoin folks but seems at least on the surface that it is a dead end :( 10:41 -!- JM-IRCRelay [~RelayBot@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 10:42 < arubi> (also the fingerprint I see with myself is sha1, so maybe not so useful ;) ) 12:31 -!- fqtw [~me@x590d22cf.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31 -!- fqtw [~me@x590d22cf.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 13:01 -!- rotarydialer [~rotarydia@unaffiliated/rotarydialer] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:02 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@27-245-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:02 -!- rotarydialer [~rotarydia@unaffiliated/rotarydialer] has joined #joinmarket 13:04 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@27-245-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined #joinmarket 13:16 -!- mol [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 13:17 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 13:19 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:20 -!- mol [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:32 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@27-245-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:33 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@27-245-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined #joinmarket 13:39 -!- zompigu [~zompigu@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f876-53.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #joinmarket 13:52 -!- grubles [~grbs@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:05 -!- grubles [~grbs@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #joinmarket 14:32 < zompigu> hi all, ive been reading up on bitcoin recently and came across joinmarket, and its not entirely clear to me how things are supposed to work 14:32 < zompigu> specifically, i dont get how routing your coins through joinmarket helps with disconnecting your input-coins from your output-coins, when afterwards you essentially recombine the output-coins to form close to the same total sum as the input coins - unless you go full autism with your compartmentalization 14:37 < zompigu> don't get me wrong, I think bitcoin, coinjoin and joinmarket are great ideas, just am not convinced by how practical it is to properly anonimise your coins - i understood the goal is to make this kind of thing easy in practical use even for laymen 14:38 -!- twokun [~two@46.19.137.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:44 -!- twokun [~two@91.214.169.69] has joined #joinmarket 14:51 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: belcher, fronti 14:51 -!- Netsplit over, joins: belcher 14:52 < belcher> zompigu joinmarket attempts to improve privacy using coinjoin 14:52 < belcher> im not entirely understanding your concerns, have you read much about coinjoin ? 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