--- Day changed Fri Sep 23 2016 01:34 -!- Elanthius [5e1f234e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.31.35.78] has joined #joinmarket 02:09 < Elanthius> Damnit, I haven't been able to connect to the CgAn pit since the 19th. I'm hearing all this crap about how busy it is and I'm locked out still. Rizon seems OK. Only just connected. Not sure how busy it is there. 02:09 < Elanthius> It doesn't make any sense I can connect fine through this webirc thing but not from my server 02:15 < Elanthius> Oh wow, I think I found the problem 02:22 -!- twokun [~two@185.103.96.147] has left #joinmarket [] 02:23 < Elanthius> As with all these kinds of things the real problem is that I'm a fucking idiot 03:03 <@waxwing> Elanthius: heh. i think we've all been there. 04:52 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:09 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined #joinmarket 05:36 -!- fqtw_ is now known as fqtw 05:54 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x590c71a7.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 05:57 -!- fqtw [~me@x590cd9b7.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:48 -!- fqtw__ [~me@x4db00a8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 06:52 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x590c71a7.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:57 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x4db114d6.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 07:00 -!- fqtw__ [~me@x4db00a8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:06 -!- ap0or [5242e2e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.66.226.226] has joined #joinmarket 07:12 < ap0or> Hello ! As I'm quite new to joinmarket, I'm coming to you with a question : is sending coins to an internal address of a joinmarket wallet = loosing those coins forever ? 07:14 <@waxwing> ap0or: no, not at all. 07:14 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #joinmarket 07:16 <@waxwing> it's a practical matter to have separate external (=for funding let's say) and internal (for change) branches. all the coins are of course yours and accessible to you. 07:16 <@waxwing> "practical matter" = for privacy, it helps to avoid address reuse. 07:16 < ap0or> I have messed up a bit with joinmarket today and it appears that all my coins are lost from my reach 07:17 < ap0or> I posted about it on reddit, I will give you the likn 07:17 < ap0or> link* 07:17 < ap0or> https://www.reddit.com/r/joinmarket/comments/544fvv/how_did_i_loose_all_my_coins/ 07:18 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:19 <@waxwing> ap0or: you used -N 1 but non -m 4 ? 07:19 <@waxwing> the default is zero, so if you did anything (it looks like maybe you didn't from "not enough liquidity", but would have to be sure), then you sent coins from mixdepth 0 back to mixdepth 0 07:20 <@waxwing> when you say "i checked my balance with -m 15" that's a confusion, m is the mxdepth, it doesn't go up to 15 unless you choose for it to do so (which you wouldn't) 07:21 < ap0or> Okay, maybe I used -m 4 when I transferred the coins, I'm lost in plenty of logs 07:21 <@waxwing> to check balance you presumably used python wallet-tool.py right. so when you do that, what do you see? presumably 5 mixdepths, are you saying they all show zero? 07:22 < ap0or> I'm not shure. Somehow I thought sum 0 would elpty all depths 07:22 < ap0or> when i show my balance, with or without -m option, it's always 0 07:22 <@waxwing> no we always make transfers per mixdepth separately; otherwise you've ruined any privacy created. 07:23 <@waxwing> so what did you have before (ie what do you expect)? a variety of amounts in each mixdepth, or all in one or? 07:23 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-40-227-45-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 07:23 < ap0or> I had all my funds on depths 4 07:23 < ap0or> nothing on 0 07:23 <@waxwing> right, so we've isolated that. 07:23 <@waxwing> does wallet-tool show a mixdepth 4 as part of the report? 07:24 < ap0or> and wanted to put all on 0 but did this on 3 different depths 0 addresses 07:24 < ap0or> for mixdepth=4 balance=0.00000000btc 07:25 <@waxwing> ok, so that part is clear. and do you have any log or record of what address you sent the funds to in the sendpayment run; e.g. you could look at the last *.log file in logs/ 07:25 < ap0or> yes 07:26 <@waxwing> so does that address show up in the list from wallet-tool for mixdepth 0? 07:26 <@waxwing> maybe more to the point, you could check that address on a block explorer, first. 07:26 < ap0or> yeah, i checked on blockchain 07:26 < ap0or> transactions confirmed 07:27 <@waxwing> ok; does it appear in the mixdepth 0 list? 07:27 < ap0or> sorry, the log starts with 07:27 < ap0or> [DEBUG] starting sendpayment 07:27 < ap0or> where should I look for the adress I sent to ? 07:27 <@waxwing> yes, that part's fine. i meant, after you run wallet-tool, it shows a list of addresses for each mixdepth. look in the list of addresses for mixdepth 0. 07:28 <@waxwing> isn't this how you found which address to send to? 07:28 < ap0or> yes 07:28 < ap0or> it is 07:28 <@waxwing> so it shows an amount 0 next to that address? 07:28 < ap0or> yes 07:28 <@waxwing> well, that's good news. 07:28 < ap0or> actually that's how i found back the address to check on the blockchain 07:29 <@waxwing> it means there's merely a sync problem. if it's on the block explorer, you should be fine. we just have to figure out your sync problem. 07:29 <@waxwing> are you using blockr or Bitcoin Core? 07:29 < ap0or> haha, maybe that's where it will get funny for you 07:29 < ap0or> i'm not aware of neither 07:29 < ap0or> i'm not used to bitcoins 07:29 <@waxwing> ok,np, open joinmarket.cfg and read the top line "blockchain_source" 07:30 <@waxwing> presumably it will say "blockr" 07:30 < ap0or> yesi t doe 07:30 < ap0or> s 07:30 < ap0or> yes it does 07:31 <@waxwing> ok, well now it's kind of guesswork as to what the problem might be getting the data from blockr.com. what OS are you on? 07:31 < ap0or> linux mint 07:31 <@waxwing> btc.blockr.io i should say, rather than blockr.com 07:32 <@waxwing> hmm, wonder what the problem is. we could do some weird test, but i haven't previously encountered that type of problem on linux. 07:32 <@waxwing> did it work before? i guess it must have. 07:33 < ap0or> i just transferred all my coins from a wallet on a famous website to my joinmarket wallet, it went super well 07:33 <@waxwing> i'm going off for an hour or two, but you can rest easy if that address shows up in the wallet-tool.py , because it means you have the private key for sure. 07:34 <@waxwing> perhaps someone else can help you debug this blockr issue, it's quite out of the ordinary it seems. 07:34 < ap0or> ok thank you 07:34 <@waxwing> well, as long as you don't lose the seedphrase :) 07:34 < ap0or> I won't :) 07:46 -!- fqtw [~me@x590e1bf9.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 07:49 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x4db114d6.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:50 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x590e0a39.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 07:52 -!- fqtw [~me@x590e1bf9.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:55 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@90.149.73.62] has joined #joinmarket 08:11 -!- mrkent [~textual@unaffiliated/mrkent] has joined #joinmarket 08:27 -!- zompigu [~zompigu@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f876-53.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #joinmarket [] 08:29 < ap0or> OK problem solved 08:29 < ap0or> turns out 08:29 < ap0or> it was all my fault 08:30 < ap0or> and I makes me totally foolish ^^ 08:30 < ap0or> it* 08:30 < ap0or> the funds are on another wallet 08:43 < ap0or> at least I learned somethings today 08:53 <@waxwing> ap0or: so was it that you were sending to mixdepth 0 of a different wallet? 08:57 < ap0or> At first I installed Joinmarket version 0.1.something 08:57 < ap0or> then when I installed version 0 08:57 < ap0or> 0.2 I recreated a wallet 08:57 < ap0or> and I don't know, somehow i mixed the addresses from those two wallets 08:57 < ap0or> my bad 08:57 < ap0or> my stupid bad x) 08:57 <@waxwing> interesting, though: when you "recreated" did you use the same wallet name, or a different one? 08:58 <@waxwing> it wouldn't matter as long as you saved both the seedphrases, but it could be one source of confusion 09:00 < ap0or> yeah same name, not same directory, and I deleted the first one ! but kept the phrase :) 09:01 <@waxwing> ap0or: ok that can happen if you manually deleted the first one, but by default it would not have overwritten. one should be very careful deleting wallet files! 09:01 <@waxwing> just give the new one a new name next time 09:01 < ap0or> okay ! 09:01 <@waxwing> sorry :) 09:02 <@waxwing> just be aware i'm not only asking for you but for other people that encounter problems in future 09:21 < ap0or> asking ? 09:25 < ap0or> got to go afk, brb 09:25 <@waxwing> ap0or: sorry perhaps confusion, no more questions :) 09:36 -!- twokun [~two@46.19.137.116] has joined #joinmarket 09:55 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:28 -!- twokun [~two@46.19.137.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:29 -!- fqtw_ [~me@x590e0a39.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:31 -!- dildo [2d203892@gateway/web/freenode/ip.45.32.56.146] has joined #joinmarket 10:31 -!- fqtw 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Do you know that all it takes to ditch you is to shut down tor ? 22:52 < JM-IRCRelay> [ghz] so long sucker 22:52 < geranium> 🍁 LOL 🍂 22:52 < geranium> 🍁 L O L 🍂 22:52 < geranium> 🍁 who the fuck was he 🍂 22:52 < geranium> 🍁 on my network 🍂 22:53 < geranium> 🍁 why is he using 🍂 22:53 < geranium> 🍁 fucking server hardware 🍂 22:53 < geranium> 🍁 for ircing 🍂 22:56 < geranium> 🍁 i think hes the dickhead 🍂 22:56 < geranium> 🍁 who kept botting me 🍂 22:56 < geranium> 🍁 lol 🍂 22:56 < geranium> 🍁 fucking champ 🍂 23:06 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@62.205.214.125] has joined #joinmarket 23:10 -!- fqtw [~me@x4db24d7c.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #joinmarket 23:19 -!- geranium is now known as ferus 23:19 -!- ferus is now known as geranium 23:22 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:23 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 23:41 < OverlordQ> wat