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02:35 < oomesdutLej> hi     
02:35 < oomesdutLej> i need to know - is it save to ^C the tumble script and resume it with -m <mixing depth> at a later time?
02:37 < waxwing> oomesdutLej: yes it's safe. there's a paragraph on this exact page on the wiki page about tumbling
02:38 < waxwing> i'd recommend using the latest code from the develop branch if poss. 
02:40 < oomesdutLej> Thanks! I did not find such a paragraph. Are you referring to https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/wiki/Step-by-step-running-the-tumbler ?
02:40 < waxwing> oomesdutLej: yes, see at the end point 1 under 'tips/further'
02:41 < oomesdutLej> I see.
02:41 < oomesdutLej> I'd prefer to use stable - are the two branches compatible? Can I just stash, checkout, pop?
02:42 < waxwing> well, i have a specific reason to say it here, because on tumbler restart, depending on parameters, you can find that the script crashes for an annoying reason.
02:42 < waxwing> it's not about safety, it's because the fields in the wallet.json under "index_cache" don't match what's expected, and so the wallet syncing crashes.
02:43 < waxwing> that bug is fixed here: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/commit/502b6a82a3ee2420642c29613328ef4ec51550b7
02:43 < oomesdutLej> Okay, thanks a lot. I'll switch branches then.
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03:40 < GithubBot5678> [joinmarket] AdamISZ pushed 1 new commit to develop: https://git.io/vP5da
03:40 < GithubBot5678> joinmarket/develop 7ecaa56 Adam Gibson: fix off-by-one bug in fast sync
03:43 < GithubBot5678> [joinmarket] AdamISZ closed pull request #637: add direct send feature from mixdepth using -N 0 in sendpayment scrip… (develop...direct_send) https://git.io/vPPhs
04:15 < GithubBot5678> [joinmarket] paoloaga opened pull request #643: Allow notifies coming from external hosts (master...master) https://git.io/vP5AZ
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05:32 < waxwing> today is update ssl certificates day :kill-me-now:
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06:35 < waxwing> actually LE certbot-auto renew worked *immediately* , even though i'd accidentally let it expire .. damn...
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07:56 < wuckkuepVog> I've earlier asked about being able to safely resume the tumbling process.
07:56 < wuckkuepVog> I've been unsuccessful continuing from the lowest used mixing stage.
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07:57 < wuckkuepVog> Could it be a problem that the mixing stage has only one used address?
07:58 < wuckkuepVog> I'm getting "Failed to source commitments, waiting 3 minutes"
08:12 < GithubBot5678> [joinmarket] AlexCato opened pull request #644: Fix bug: configuring log level from joinmarket.cfg now works as intended (develop...FixLogLevels) https://git.io/vPd48
08:13 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato] wuckkuepVog, you can check your debug_commitment.txt (or was it commitment_debug?) to check if the one address you have in the mixdepth is blacklisted
08:14 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato] it will tell you right in there what might cause the error message
08:15 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato] here's a few options on what you can do if the only address is blacklisted: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/wiki/Sourcing-commitments-for-joins
08:16 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato] easiest way might be to send another transaction to the same mixing stage, which is at least 20% as big as the one currently in there
08:36 < GithubBot5678> [joinmarket] AlexCato closed pull request #640: add yg-randomizer: YG to randomize all aspects of cj offers (develop...yg-randomizer) https://git.io/vP9ZF
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09:09 < GithubBot5678> [joinmarket] AdamISZ closed pull request #644: Fix bug: configuring log level from joinmarket.cfg now works as intended (develop...FixLogLevels) https://git.io/vPd48
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09:39 < wuckkuepVog> Thanks, AlexCato, will try that.
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11:50 < belcher> been sync'ing this full node for the last 5 days
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11:51 < belcher> to think that the alternative to this is telling blockr.io what all your addresses are :cry:
11:51 < belcher> also, a surprisingly large portion of the sync time is spent in 2015/2016
11:53 < arubi> really 5 days?  oh man I'm just about to switch to somewhat newer (still old) hardware for segwit..
11:54 < belcher> well this laptop isnt great, and iv been using it for other stuff too in the meantime
11:54 < arubi> oic, at least this laptop will host bitcoind and pretty much it
11:54 < belcher> also it ran out of disk space so iv enabled pruning (though i also got some films and music over the last few months)
11:55 < belcher> even so, 1MB per block is 52GB per year
11:55 < arubi> yea, so even more soon..
11:56 < kakobrekla> dont use segwit then ?
11:56 < arubi> does not compute
11:57 < kakobrekla> old nodes with 1mb blocks will still work neh ?
11:58 < belcher> most of the time in 2015/16 is spent verifying signatures i believe
11:58 < belcher> looking at my network usage, its not very high
11:58 < belcher> segwit at least removes the quadratic scaling thing
11:58 < waxwing> yes, blockchains are for verification :)
11:58 < arubi> probably.  kakobrekla, yea sure, it's more of a personal thing to keep track of
11:58 < waxwing> belcher: did you get gmaxwell's ban list?
11:58 < belcher> i always run with -listen=0
11:58 < waxwing> AWS nodes have gone full retard :)
11:59 < waxwing> i have been banning 1 per 2 seconds literally all day
11:59 < belcher> those nodes only try to connect to you right? they dont necessarily listen
11:59 < belcher> idk     
11:59 < arubi> lol how is this not against aws policy?
11:59 < arubi> I mean not that I care too much, but amazon should
12:03 < belcher> aside: has anyone ever run a yield generator and full node on a rasbpi ?
12:04 < waxwing> have a memory someone tried.
12:04 < waxwing> btw got a pull request about an RPi today
12:05 < waxwing> well, prompted by trying to set up an RPi according to the PR
12:05 < waxwing> about localhost/0.0.0.0
12:09 < belcher> yeah i saw that
12:09 < belcher> isnt 0.0.0.0 = null routing? so it wouldnt connect anywhere
12:09 < belcher> or have a misunderstood/misremembered
12:10 < grubles> 0.0.0.0 is "listen on any interface" iirc 
12:11 < belcher> ooh yes, i read it wrong, its for listening not connecting
12:12 < belcher> a few months ago we used to use system('curl something') to send notifications to the next script, so that wouldve been a vunerability, but now we use python's urllib instead so its fine
12:12 < belcher> i cant think of anything obviously wrong with the idea
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14:37 < Yohkii> My yield-gen doesn't want to update walllet balances after I spent some of the coins. Wallet-tool does, though
14:52 < belcher> thats a bit strange, since the same code for sync'ing the wallet is used in both
14:53 < Yohkii> That's what I thought too
14:54 < Yohkii> I've tried re-copying the wallet and everything that isn't a bitcoin -rescan
14:54 < Yohkii> yet yg gives me old amounts in the wallets, and those coins are surely spent
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14:58 < ucgedLew> hi     
14:59 < belcher> hello
14:59 < ucgedLew> I've been having difficulties with the tumble script.
15:00 < ucgedLew> It's been printing "Failed to source commitments, waiting 3 minutes" for >1 hour
15:01 < belcher> if you run wallet-tool.py, which mixdepth are you coins in?
15:01 < ucgedLew> I've transferred some BTC to the least active mixing stage and restarted the script using -m <stage>.
15:02 < ucgedLew> However the new addresses have been blacklisted (item 1 in commitments_debug.txt) as well.
15:02 < belcher> could you try sending those coins to another new address in the same mixdepth?
15:02 < belcher> that will create a new UTXO that isnt blacklisted
15:02 < ucgedLew> mixing depth 2 m/0/2/
15:04 < ucgedLew> To one of the external addresses? I've tried that. Got multiple used addresses on that depth.
15:04 < ucgedLew> Should I try again?
15:05 < belcher> you already transferred the blacklisted coins to new addresses?
15:06 < ucgedLew> No, I transferred coins (from spendable addresses) to one of the external addresses listed by wallet-tool.py using the bitcoin client.
15:07 < belcher> and you get the same message? that they're blacklisted
15:08 < ucgedLew> Yes, they're blacklisted now.
15:08 < belcher> sorry i dont know enough to help you, waxwing might
15:08 < ucgedLew> Also due to miscalculations on my part I ended up with an address with less than 20% of the mixdepth.
15:08 < ucgedLew> Is there a way to recollect the coins and try anew?
15:09 < belcher> yes, send them to new addresses of yours
15:09 < ucgedLew> using sendpayment?
15:11 < belcher> that wouldnt work because they're blacklisted, so you cant create a coinjoin
15:11 < belcher> you have to somehow make a normal non-coinjoin transactino
15:11 < belcher> perhaps import the keys into another wallet and send from there, or use the develop branch on github which lets you use -N 0 on sendpayment that creates a non-coinjoin
15:12 < ucgedLew> I see, I will try the last.
15:14 < Yohkii> wallet-tool -p, dig up the priv.keys and import to any wallet is the easiest imo
15:16 < ucgedLew> Is there a way to import them into Bitcoin Core?
15:16 < belcher> yeah but you have to -rescan
15:17 < belcher> the develop branch thing might be the best if you know how to use github
15:17 < ucgedLew> Yeah I'm on develop and tried python sendpayment.py -N 0 -m 2 <wallet> <amount> <address>
15:18 < ucgedLew> However: "ERROR not enough liquidity in the orderbook, exiting" could this mean my conversion to satoshis was invalid?
15:18 < belcher> that doesnt make sense, sec reading the source code
15:19 < belcher> do git log
15:19 < belcher> it should match this https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/commits/develop
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15:20 < belcher> if it doesnt, do git pull
15:20 < ucgedLew> I'm on 96aacf2a7de148d154760c5371ecf63a0629f819
15:20 < ucgedLew> Pulling..
15:21 < belcher> yeah that commit is from 3 days ago
15:21 < ucgedLew> I believe it worked
15:21 < ucgedLew> does sendpayment consider transaction fees?
15:22 < belcher> it should
15:22 < ucgedLew> Good, I believe it worked. Thanks a lot!!
15:23 < belcher> it cant have confirmed already
15:23 < belcher> but yeah im guessing tumbler should work after that
15:23 < belcher> dont really know if this is the right thing to do (create a new utxo that isnt banned)
15:24 < ucgedLew> It didn't but Bitcoin Core is listing the transaction.
15:26 < belcher> ok     
15:27 < ucgedLew> Hm     
15:27 < ucgedLew> "There are no utxos in mixdepth: 2, quitting."
15:28 < belcher> probably because its still unconfirmed
15:28 < ucgedLew> It seems like its not touching this specific internal address.
15:28 < ucgedLew> Oh that might be.
15:28 < belcher> and the UTXO used for commitments needs 5 confirmations
15:29 < ucgedLew> I'll just wait an hour or so, thanks again!
15:30 < belcher> let us know how it goes
15:34 < ucgedLew> Will do.
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16:19 < ucgedLew> It went well, thanks for the help!
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23:06 < waxwing> re the above problem solving session, hopefully people will start using add-utxo ; i've recommended it as much as possible but haven't heard of a single person actually doing it yet :)
23:07 < waxwing> oh, no, that's a dumb comment; if he had coins that were already blacklisted in one wallet, then sending them to create new utxos is obv a good idea
23:08 < waxwing> but that's another thing, there is also sendtomany.py in the cmttools/ directory which does the same thing except make more utxos. depends on situation i guess.