--- Day changed Thu Nov 03 2016
00:05 < teenis> i had one utxo that was too small to make it through
00:06 < teenis> so it didn't close when it finished
00:06 < teenis> probably connection, although many of the irc servers are in a rack next to mine
00:07 < teenis> no, not many. 
00:08 < waxwing> i know from testing that it's a good idea to use a higher minimum cjamount than the default, which is 1 million. probably bump it to 7-10 million.
00:08 < waxwing> that's the -s option
00:09 < waxwing> not that i'm sure that's the cause of "one utxo that was too small to make it through"
00:09 < waxwing> because i'm not sure precisely what you meant by that
00:13 < teenis> as far as I understand it was because I sent a transaction to the zeroth mixing depth that was less than 20% of the payment amount
00:14 < waxwing> sorry afk for a bit (it's morning here) but if you describe more precisely what the problem condition is (what happened or didn't that shouldn't, exactly), i can try to explain a bit later
00:15 < teenis> pretty sure I just screwed up while funding the wallet
00:16 < teenis> https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/wiki/Sourcing-commitments-for-joins
00:16 < teenis> "However, don't split an amount to be spent into > 5 - because a utxo has to be at least 20% of the total payment amount, so you could find yourself unable to source a commitment in that case. 3 equal sized amounts ought to be fine."
00:17 < teenis> don't know about the exception that resulted in (or was caused by?) irc connection dying though
01:27 < waxwing> teenis: you may be slightly misinterpreting; at the start of any new transaction, joinmarket needs to be able to find *one* unused commitment (3 commits per utxo) that satisfies the rule that its utxo value is at least 20% of the amount of that specific coinjoin (that transaction)
01:28 < waxwing> but can i pull back to my earlier point: "if you describe more precisely what the problem condition is (what happened or didn't that shouldn't, exactly)"
01:28 < teenis> ah     
01:28 < waxwing> you're describing what you think might be the cause of the problem, but i need to know what the actual problem is :)
01:30 < waxwing> has anyone apart from me used direct send yet?
01:32 < teenis> I had ~0.03 out of about 1btc get stuck on both mixing depths 2 and 3
01:33 < waxwing> so was it like, you had to restart it, and started it from the next one up, thus kind of leaving that 0.03 behind?
01:34 < waxwing> btw if you have 0.03 hanging around you may find the direct send feature useful  :)
01:34 < waxwing> lol https://www.reddit.com/r/Zcashclassic/ look at the only post in there :)
01:35 < gmaxwell> lol     
01:36 < waxwing> he's really pushing the trademark thing apparently gmaxwell 
01:38 < teenis> all the other coins made their way to the destinations, because of the irc connection calling it quits I can't really tell what it was going to do with the coins it left behind
01:39 < waxwing> teenis: so that means, you never manually restarted the tumbler from a higher mixdepth, but there are a couple of small amounts left over in those mixdepths?
01:39 < teenis> yeah that's right
01:39 < waxwing> but the rest, minus fees, ended up in the destination addresses you intended
01:39 < waxwing> ?     
01:39 < teenis> yep     
01:40 < waxwing> huh, that's certainly not intended behaviour. have to think about it.
01:41 < waxwing> activity still very high today for me. are we making joinmarket great again?
01:51 < waxwing> teenis: just to help thinking about it later, can i ask: was it only *one* utxo "left behind" in certain mixdepths, or was it more than one?
01:54 < teenis> yes     
01:54 < teenis> one utxo
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07:09 < teenis> this normal? choosing sweep orders for total_input_value = 0 n=5
07:09 < teenis> seems a little off
07:22 < waxwing> teenis: looks like joinmarket believes there are no coins in that mixdepth (or they could be unconfirmed)
07:26 < teenis> yeah right
07:26 < teenis> unfortunate syntax error
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18:32 < belcher> worth noting, this is the list address associated with the bitfinex hack http://pastebin.com/2XSASEEZ and many of them have been swept
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