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02:30 < JM-IRCRelay> [youyou] anyone there? Come out to chat
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04:19 < visitor> Quick questions: For what minimum wallet size is it worth setting up a JoinMarket maker, if any? Are there many takers?
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06:16 < belcher> visitor not really sure about the minimum, iv seen coinjoins of sizes 0.1 or below, of course that might change with the rising exchange rate
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06:49 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato1] might also change with bitcoin miner fees. Small amounts suffer most from those; that might counter the price increases
06:49 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato1] from my own experience, most joins i see in the range 0.3 - 1.5 btc
06:51 < JM-IRCRelay> [AlexCato1] since your wallet's funds will be spread out in different mixing levels, you'll need more than that as a maker though. Potentially at least two or three times that
06:52 < belcher> ah yes because miner fees seem to be denominated in btc rather than a basket of goods and services or USD
06:53 < belcher> presumably because as rusty's blog says, users dont care yet
06:53 < belcher> so a rise in the exchange rate means the miner fees go up too, though economics says they shouldnt (i think)
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07:55 < visitor> Cool -- thanks for the estimates! I'll have to set this up on my linux system and see how it goes.
08:23 < JM-IRCRelay> [youyou] Hi, have come out to chat
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08:35 < belcher> hello youyou
08:44 < Empty2k12> What does the blacklist do?
08:45 < belcher> utxo podle commitments
08:48 < JM-IRCRelay> [youyou] hello
08:48 < JM-IRCRelay> [youyou] I am eating
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16:51 < belcher> so interesting point, no users has yet complained that blockr.io doesnt work because of certificate expired, hopefully that means nobody actually uses blockr.io :D
16:53 < owowo> ;0)     
17:17 < midnightmagic> No, I just saw your message.
17:18 < midnightmagic> Also, I didn't know blockr was yours, so I wouldn't have complained to you anyway. :-)
17:19 < belcher> me? its not mine its owned by coinbase.com
17:19 < belcher> so they can spy on everyone who uses it
17:20 < kakobrekla> eh, cb no longer knows they even have it
17:21 < belcher> ssssshh! dont remind them!
17:21 < kakobrekla> but yeah, they acquired it long ago as a part of getting some devs from eu to work there
17:22 < kakobrekla> non of which still work there
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17:28 < belcher> well in the past its been broken and then fixed itself.. i assume someone fixed it
17:29 < kakobrekla> nasa
17:29 < midnightmagic> I will now stop using it.
17:30 < midnightmagic> But yes, I did notice the cert was expired.
19:53 < grubles> midnightmagic, you were using blockr? *eye twitch*
19:54 < grubles> https://techcrunch.com/2014/08/18/coinbase-acquires-blockchain-explore-blockr-io/
20:04 < gmaxwell> coinbase had an expired cert on their payment protocol endpoint for months last year.
20:05 < gmaxwell> too bad it's not like dns registration where third parties can usually pay it for you. :)
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20:16 < kakobrekla> l0l     
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21:17 < midnightmagic> grubles: There was one of them that did a nice script analysis live, and had some script tools. I've forgotten which one that was, and clearly in my brain I got it mixed up with blockr.io.