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01:09 < Noob> Hey folks anyone else getting this tar xzf joinmarket-0.2.2.tar.gz tar (child): joinmarket-0.2.2.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child returned status 2 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
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02:12 < adlai> every irc channel should have a bot that responds to every first-seen nick with an introduction to irc including "patience, young padawan"
02:31 < sturles> I am recovering a joinmarket wallet with a gap of at least 1000 at some depths.  This doesn't work well.  wallet-tool will only go up to about 60.  I have several BTC hidden deeper.  I tried with -g 1500, but that only triggers import of 600 mor addresses.  How can I make my lost coins at the deeper levels visible to joinmarket again?
02:42 < adlai> sturles: what do you mean "will only go up to about 60"? just -g12345 gets capped at 60!?
02:42  * adlai has used ridiculous gap limits for recovery. try 'lather, rinse, repeat'? also, try adding a statement to print the wallet index reached each time, so you can see that repetitions aren't progress-free
02:44 < sturles> If I try a larger value than 60, it will just import a few new addresses every time I run it, and tell me to rescan.  A rescan takes days on this computer.
02:44 < adlai> well don't just do everything the computer tells you, you aren't a computer yourself :P
02:44 < adlai> add the print statement so you can tell that it's importing new addresses each time
02:45 < adlai> if it isn't, then that's an actual bug - which exists, and i gave up on pinning it down precisely once --fast sync was released
02:45 < sturles> It would be great if I could just add 1500 addresses or so of every branch *before* I do the -rescan.
02:45  * adlai still doesn't understand why wallet-tool is capping the number of imported addresses
02:46 < adlai> my hunch - it's importing the number you want, but they overlap with already imported ones, so the account size is growing by less
02:48 < sturles> I doubt it.  It imported 2800 addresses in the beginning.  Then every time I run wallet-tool -g 1500:
02:48 < sturles> 2017-01-22 11:47:15,900 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  too few addresses in [(0, 0), (0, 1), (1, 0), (1, 1), (2, 0), (2, 1), (3, 0), (3, 1), (4, 0), (4, 1)] at [3, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 15, 15, 1]
02:49 < sturles> 2017-01-22 11:47:19,618 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  importing 600 addresses into account joinmarket-wallet-9fcd21
02:49 < sturles> It won't get to 1000+ that way.
02:51 < sturles> Guess I'll just run it periodically during the rescan, and hope it will add deeper addresses as it see the lower ones beeing used.
03:09 < waxwing> sturles: don't have time to look into it right now but you can try bumping addr_req_count maybe
03:19 < sturles> Much better!  Thanks.
03:23 < adlai> the wax-wing: not the hero joinmarket wants, but the hero joinmarket needs :)
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10:30 < waxwing> i'm pootling around with the bc.i interface again; it seems to work but rate limiting makes it horribly slow. i wonder if something like blockcypher might be better? anyone have a API (preferably that supports testnet, isn't too aggressive on rate limiting and accessible over Tor)? seems like we were a bit spoilt :)
10:30 < waxwing> the electrum one was better really, but even slower in as much as it worked. and it, too, did not support testnet at all :(
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16:09 < weex> what versions of Bitcoin Core are supported by joinmarket?
16:09 < weex> looking at this importaddress test fail since "watchonly" doesn't exist and wondering if code should be there to check version and include the watchonly or not based on core support
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16:45 < Anduck> 0.10 and upwards iirc
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20:39 < weex> turns out that watchonly thing wasn't the issue, i had an rpc config problem and was able to test successfully. I can't believe regtest exists...so awesome.
20:49 < roasbeef> waxwing: https://test.webbtc.com/api perhaps?
21:00 < waxwing> weex: /me nods, regtest is the best test :)
21:01 < waxwing> roasbeef: thankye kindly, will take a look.
21:01 < weex> roasbeef: hey, does btcd have this kind of light testing mode?
21:01 < weex> might be interested to try it out and lightning at some point
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22:12 < shinobimonkey> weex its got simnet where you can just run your only local network instance
22:12 < weex> and find blocks at will, etc?
22:12 < weex> thanks shinobimonkey 
22:13 < shinobimonkey> yeah, everythings set up to make the whole thing run locally
22:13 < shinobimonkey> roasbeef has a btcd fork on his github thats segwit compatible, you need that to run LND
22:14 < weex> nice, i wonder if testnet may see less use due to these more convenient test environments
22:16 < shinobimonkey> nah, still need to run everything all on a network together to make sure everything behaves
23:07 < waxwing> ok, bc.i api works on tails (tor), but you have to be ok waiting for 10-15 minutes even for a smallish wallet (it refuses requests pretty regularly 'endpoint limit reached' etc)
23:19 < weex> if only there were a way to pay for speed with such api access
23:19 < waxwing> well sure that's possible, that's the main way apis are monetized right
23:20 < waxwing> in this particular case, it's just the wrong side of usable in my case. but doesn't hurt to have it as an extra option in extremis.
23:20 < weex> I think most paid APIs are expensive and built for enterprise use
23:20 < waxwing> s/in my case/in this case/ is what i meant
23:21 < weex> 21 was thinking along the right lines with their stuff but too centralized
23:22 < weex> anyone serving the api needs to have an addrindex and txindex right?
23:22 < weex> to be able to respond with balance and transaction info for any address
23:23 < weex> I wonder how big those indexes are
23:25 < weex> btcdrak: how big is the addrindex? is that compatible with pruning?
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23:33 < btcdrak> weex: maybe ~15GB more iirc. Not compatible with pruning though.
23:48 < weex> 117gb for my .bitcoin/ so that means 132 + 200 for a year of segwit maxed ot and it's 330gb
23:49 < weex> s/ot/out
23:50 < weex> $840/yr min at digital ocean
23:57 < shinobimonkey> :O     
23:58 < weex> it can be lower since not as much storage would be needed for a while but dedicated would be more i'd bet