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07:29 < midnightmagic> Ooo I like the UTXO bloatgraph.
09:14 < weex> Anduck: very cool. you might want to bump the color at the bottom of the scale so both ends aren't red. 
09:15 < weex> I see that they're sorted so that helps
09:19 < weex> Working on this color grid that gmaxwell suggested http://i.imgur.com/f3R1qnL.png
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11:28 < waxwing> https://www.reddit.com/r/joinmarket/comments/5ru6hm/the_protocol_is_broken_hard_to_be_a_maker_and/ddaivw8/
12:02 < waxwing> any thoughts on the above welcome! ... we still don't have a solution for the various ways of sybil-ing maker side. it seems tx volume is down a lot from where it was, blockr captcha, sybils, fees all could be part of it. that comment ^ suggests non-response type sybils is actually growing.
12:09 < waxwing> it occurred to me the other day that schnorr aggregation for coinjoin has the huge win that, because it's a scalability solution, transactions using it to gain privacy have the huge gain that they are not "suspicious" in any way.
12:13 < waxwing> btw someone is actually using joinmarket-pit-test now, so if anyone else wants to add some long running testnet makers on there (i have 3) please do, that'd be helpful
12:21 < gmaxwell> waxwing: yes, aggregation would be a big win for coinjoin, as it would give strong non-privacy reasons to use it.
12:23 < waxwing> yeah. i was toying with ideas around how you might create "non-suspicious" looking txs (not equal amounts, 2-3 ins, 2 outs) by using some trick like fair exchange in tumblebit (encrypted signature, and then puzzle solver protocol). but i quickly realised it's a rubbish idea because you can't get defence against double spending without those escrow/timelock features.
13:40 < nkuttler> waxwing: that's probably me. running 2 ygens for my faucet, and sending out every hour
13:41 < nkuttler> or is that not the testnet pit?
13:41  * nkuttler doesn't even know which channels his bots are in
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19:03 < waxwing> nkuttler: no, not you, you're not in that channel
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22:41 < nopara73> Hi guys! What are your take on the Stratum protocol in a privacy point of view? (Electrum is using it.)
22:43 < gmaxwell> electrum effectively sends all your addresses to every server it connects to.
22:43 < gmaxwell> and it connects pretty promisciously. 
22:44 < gmaxwell> if you use electrum and want any privacy you should be running your own server.
22:49 < nopara73> Thank you. It is a no-go then. I stop reading up on it.
23:33 < nopara73> How about jonasschnelli's SPV proposal (from privacy point of view)? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9483 Privacy is not discussed there.