--- Day changed Sat Mar 04 2017
02:02 < waxwing> chuckymcgee: was it cgan you were getting kicked from?
02:02 < waxwing> re spammers getting kicked, i've not done anything recently
02:02 < waxwing> others have been complaining about not being able to connect to cgan
02:02 < zxccxz> you can't reconnect to same nick unless it's registered on connection reset
02:03 < waxwing> grubles: that message will often happen in normal situation
02:03 < waxwing> zxccxz: ah, that sounds right. that means if the connect fails, it will continue to fail
02:03 < waxwing> because (without double checking the code) i think the nickname is set on program startup, whereas re-connect won't reset it
02:04 < waxwing> so if you restart it'd be OK, but it'd depend why your first connection attempt failed
02:04 < zxccxz> no reason to try to connect to same nick unless you have put a password
02:04 < zxccxz> in config
02:04 < waxwing> zxccxz: yes, of course. i'm talking about the specific situation where you start up the program, it attempts to connect, and fails. then when it tries to reconnect it will do so with the same nick.
02:05 < waxwing> and if as you say cgan does not allow that, then it'll fail again.
02:10 < zxccxz> my observation is that when connetion fails a few time it never reconnects to cgan in same running instance, you have to terminate and re-run
02:11 < waxwing> ok. if anyone wants to ask the cgan server ops about it, feel free. i did re-post their donation address recently, they're having a donation drive of some sort.
02:11 < zxccxz> probably reconnection attempts must be delayed more
02:11 < waxwing> way back in 2015 we had a thread on it, only 2 of us (at least publically) donated. if you donate, let people know you did.
02:12 < waxwing> i remember checking recently and seeing like 350 participants in our channel and the biggest other channel on the server is like 20 people.
02:12 < waxwing> well, that 350 was an extreme peak probably. it may be why so many are experiencing getting booted...
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04:38 < waxwing> apparently someone has been using the electrum plugin at least enough to notice the irc problems :) they sent a donation to JM too :)
04:38 < waxwing> i haven't even tried to update it the last couple of months, it'll need some work. if i ever get round to it.
04:39 < belcher> one of the things im working on the bitcoin-qt integration again
04:45 < waxwing> good stuff. i'm sitting here trying to break tumblebit :)
04:46 < waxwing> only thing i've managed to do so far is prove that you'd better not run two different amounts at the same time, since then you could get 2 bitcoins by paying 1 :)
04:46 < belcher> cool
04:46 < belcher> and that wouldnt be very private either
04:46 < belcher> because of amount correlation i guess
04:46 < waxwing> but textbook RSA is so dodgy, i can't figure out why ethan is using it, except that it's messy doing blinding and rsa quotient tests (?) with padding.
04:47 < waxwing> well the amount correlation thing there is much as here; you get your privacy in the fixed amounts, that's pretty much it.
04:47 < waxwing> but the necessary amount 'stickiness' is a bit of a drawback in the model.
04:47 < waxwing> like, try to do tumbler algo in a tumblebit model, that's hard.
04:48 < waxwing> i know ethan's been looking into varied amounts a bit, but i don't know what he's done
05:00 < waxwing> (i probably wasn't clear enough, 'run two different amounts' meant 'run two tumblers, one with fixed amt 1BTC, one with fixed amt 2BTC, but *same* RSA key)
05:00 < belcher> right ok
05:00 < waxwing> it doesn't take much to see why that doesn't work :)
05:01 < waxwing> with unpadded RSA though you can run into horrifying problems just by doing something as simple as multiplying a ciphertext by 8 or something :)
05:10 < belcher> yes i know a bit about the rsa requirement for padding
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06:51 < grubles> hm now i'm getting a "list index out of range" error
06:52 < belcher> pastebin?
06:57 < grubles> sure
06:59 < grubles> https://0bin.net/paste/tFnza8mHXT0xUbOl#2rLEN7bbJ6BYppTyJsWk+t7-nYf2CKkxXqHIEUVMzFE
06:59 < waxwing> in the irc config all the settings in MESSAGING must have the same number of entries unfortunately (comma separated)
07:00 < grubles> oh duh
07:00 < grubles> i know what the issue is
07:00 < grubles> i removed cgan from my .cfg
07:00 < grubles> put it back, except forgot to add appropriate settings 
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16:26 < grubles> hm ok so it seems cgan simply banned my vpn's ip
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