--- Day changed Fri Mar 31 2017 00:41 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 00:46 -!- griest [49280799@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.40.7.153] has joined #joinmarket 00:55 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:56 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #joinmarket 01:31 < griest> what is the CORRECT way to restart tumbler 01:31 < griest> it gave me a not enough funds exception 01:35 < griest> waxwing: can you help? 01:37 < griest> i have funds in m/0/0/0/* and m/0/0/1/* and m/0/1/1/*. What command should I run to tumble these funds? 01:39 < griest> `python tumbler.py -m 0` threw a not enough funds exception after several coinjoins 01:43 -!- griest024 [49280799@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.40.7.153] has joined #joinmarket 02:28 < waxwing> yes should be from -m 0 if you still have funds in mixdepth 0 02:53 < griest024> waxwing: i ran that and it threw a not enough funds exception 02:54 < griest024> does it have to do with sourcing commitments? 02:55 < waxwing> griest: no 02:56 < waxwing> it may be to do with very small amounts. that's one scenario i could imagine it. 02:57 < waxwing> another might be if you thought there were funds there and there actually weren't. 02:58 < griest024> waxwing: according to wallet-tool i have at least .1 btc in total 02:59 < griest024> obv thats spread out among many addresses 03:01 < waxwing> stack trace might help 03:03 < griest> waxwing: https://pastebin.com/8kTMw5TN 03:04 < griest> i also got `ERROR outputs unconfirmed or already spent. utxo_data=[None]` earlier, does that have something to do with it? 03:05 < waxwing> that can be caused by your counterparty. 03:05 < griest> is it the cause of my problem? 03:06 < waxwing> please wait a moment 03:06 < griest024> okY 03:18 < waxwing> griest: is it possible a transaction took > 6 hours to confirm? 03:18 < waxwing> what do you have for tx_fees in the config? default? 03:19 < griest024> 10 03:19 < griest024> when i had it at default it gave me an absurdity warning 03:19 < griest024> waxwing 03:19 < waxwing> yes but there is absurd_fee_per_kb setting which should be bumped; in the develop branch it's already bumped. 03:20 < waxwing> nothing wrong with using tx_fees = 10 btw 03:20 < waxwing> i may be reading it wrong anyway 03:21 < GithubBot5678> [joinmarket] nopara73 opened pull request #729: Fix title formatting (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vSc51 03:21 < waxwing> i did this part differently in the new version. 03:21 < griest024> what is it bumped to? 03:21 < griest024> its at 150000 curently i think 03:22 < waxwing> doesn't matter really, since this setting is very much whatever *you* consider to be unacceptably high; but note, if it gets hit, it crashes deliberately. 03:23 < griest024> well ideally i would like the fees to be as low as possble 03:23 < waxwing> but to answer your question https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/blob/develop/joinmarket/configure.py#L150 03:23 < waxwing> yes, quite. still thinking about this for a bit. 03:24 < griest024> but at this point i'm spending .003 btc everytime i run the tumbler so I would probably save money if I just got the tumbler to complete, even with higher fees 03:24 < griest024> like i've already spent about $20 on nothing 03:24 < griest024> its quite frustrating 03:25 < waxwing> not on nothing. but sure. 03:25 < griest024> people use this software successfully, right? 03:25 < waxwing> that's one of many reasons i put a big warning in the wiki page about fees. 03:25 < waxwing> griest024: it's hard to get clear feedback, some do, but there are a lot of difficulties in getting it to complete. 03:25 < waxwing> fwiw i did a complete run on about 0.2 btc on my new version without a hitch, a few weeks ago. 03:26 < griest024> well since i have not tumbled any coins yet it seems like i've spent it on nothing. but i'm not worried about the past i just want to get it to work 03:26 < griest024> ideally without any more failures 03:27 < griest024> do you want the log? 03:27 < griest024> of the failed run? 03:27 < griest024> and what options do you typically use on your tumbles? 03:28 < griest024> do you think it would help by bumping up my absurb fee limit?\ 03:28 < griest024> or better yet, should i just checkout the develop branch? 03:28 < waxwing> maybe someone else wants to help debug this. yes, a scrubbed log would help. 03:29 < waxwing> there are at least two other options, one is the new tumbler version in my repo (which i explained in detail on reddit and links to further expl.) or also the PR https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/pull/714 03:29 < waxwing> both these versions have explicit support for restart. 03:30 < griest> sounds helpful 03:30 < waxwing> i'd be more than happy to help someone get my version working, but as for now, i'm focused on prototyping a version of coinswap :) 03:30 < waxwing> griest: it may be quite simple, what you're experiencing. or it might not. i can't say for sure right now. 03:30 < griest> yeah i'd feel better using a codebase that you're more familiar with anyway 03:32 < griest> waxwing: scrubbed log -> https://pastebin.com/P5HRCXNs 03:35 < griest> which github account is yours? 03:35 < waxwing> AdamISZ ; but see the posts on reddit/r/joinmarket for background if you're looking at that 03:38 < waxwing> all i can see from the log for now, is that it's failing to broadcast, or failing to recognize the broadcast. but i'm going to stop now, perhaps someone else can see something? 03:39 < griest> interesting that when i was running the tumbler on tails, it crashed on a similar call 03:41 < griest> so if I use your build of joinmarket-client, you could possibly debug some of those errors? what cleanup would I need to do to prepare for a tumbling? 03:42 < waxwing> i don't think you'd need to clean up anything. you could use the same wallet. bear in mind the fees though, for amounts as low as 0.1 the fees are considerable. 03:44 < griest> and that is specific to your implementation or joinmarket in general? 03:44 < griest> btw, many of your links from the reddit post are 404ing 03:49 < waxwing> griest: this one? https://www.reddit.com/r/joinmarket/comments/5u1typ/alternative_implementation_of_tumbler_and/ 03:49 < waxwing> ah yeah tumblerguide.md moved, will fix 03:50 < waxwing> (it's in docs/ now) 03:51 < waxwing> fixed, thanks, and same for install doc 03:52 < griest> so are fees higher in your implementation for low amounts? 03:53 < waxwing> fee calculations are all the same (and same config) 03:54 < griest> so when you say considerable, if I tumbled .1 with tx-fee=10 would total fees be around .01? 03:55 < waxwing> depends on number of transactions and number of counterparties, as well as bitcoin network fee rates (and also there's some randomness of course) 03:55 < griest> of course but could you ballpack it? 03:55 < griest> ballpark 03:56 < waxwing> i ballparked it in the wiki page, but you can double or so the bitcoin transaction fee part in that (which is dominant by a long way) 03:57 < griest> right you said about $5 in mining fees 03:58 < griest> how would i go about sweeping up all my coins 03:58 < griest> from the different mix depths 03:59 < waxwing> yeah maybe $20-$30 for a full run with 5-6 counterparties. it's really a lot. that might be $20, hard to say. the sweeping up is done by the tumbler. the coins end at the destinations. 04:00 < griest> so lets say i didn't want to tumble any more, how could i get my coins to an external wallet? 04:00 < waxwing> use -N 0 with amount 0 (sweep) for each mixdepth with coins; that's the cheapest way. 04:00 < waxwing> (on sendpayment of course) 04:01 < waxwing> well, technically the cheapest way is to export private keys but i never recommend that 04:01 < griest> so `python sendpayment.py -N 0 0
`? 04:01 < waxwing> yes except with wallet name 04:02 < griest> wait but how i specify mix depth 04:02 < griest> so `python sendpayment.py -N 0 0 -m {0,1}
`? 04:04 < waxwing> griest: use the --help? 04:04 < griest> yes i did 04:04 < griest> i just want to confirm the command 04:04 < griest> since mistakes cost me money 04:04 < griest> and i've already made too many 04:04 < waxwing> python sendpayment.py -N 0 -m walletname 0 destinationaddress 04:05 < griest> sounds good thanks 04:06 < griest> have you had good experinces with any other tumblers? 04:18 < griest> nevermind. thanks for the help though, i appreciate it 04:18 -!- griest [49280799@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.40.7.153] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:27 -!- griest024 [49280799@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.40.7.153] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:33 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:27 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:28 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #joinmarket 05:30 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the 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