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many bots 17:54 < belcher> theres an issue about that now if you haven't already seen, https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/issues/693 17:54 < adlai> haven't checked if they're dupes (and in general, different people running identical code can produce "dupes") 17:55 < adlai> i'm just talking about bots that spam dozens of offers, probalby due to misunderstanding offer selection rather than having calculated precisely optimal ranges 17:55 < belcher> ah rigth that thing 17:55 * adlai rereads 693 17:55 < belcher> 693 is different from what you're saying 17:56 < adlai> yep 17:57 -!- cbits [~cbits@2607:f380:a61:650:f0ec:54cb:21c9:34c0] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:08 -!- viasil [~viasil@198.12.75.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:09 -!- viasil [~viasil@198.12.75.25] has joined #joinmarket 18:16 -!- viasil [~viasil@198.12.75.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:16 -!- viasil [~viasil@198.12.75.25] has joined #joinmarket 18:18 -!- cbits 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seconds] 23:31 -!- Numin0us_ [~Numin0us@unaffiliated/numin0us] has joined #joinmarket 23:36 -!- Numin0us_ [~Numin0us@unaffiliated/numin0us] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:36 -!- Numin0us [~Numin0us@unaffiliated/numin0us] has joined #joinmarket 23:41 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 23:41 -!- Numin0us [~Numin0us@unaffiliated/numin0us] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:54 < waxwing> btw i'm seeing ~ 10/day with ultra low fees (let's say 0-3000 satoshis), note my max size is relatively low. just a (highly smeared) data point for those interested. 23:55 -!- OverlordQ [~ovrlrdq@mediawiki/OverlordQ] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:55 -!- OverlordQ [~ovrlrdq@199.101.100.58] has joined #joinmarket 23:55 -!- brand0 [brand0@lol.bxroberts.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:55 < waxwing> adlai: arubi has written some code testing it, not sure how far he's got. i have too, although after getting all the basic elements in place i'm in a bit of a tangle deciding how to progress further. 23:56 < waxwing> an interesting consideration: using coinswap in joinmarket has a different feel to it, even ignoring the tricky question of fees, because being DOSed by your counterparty imposes actual costs more than inconvenience. 23:57 < waxwing> i wouldn't overplay that point (after all coinswap txs are much smaller), but it's definitely something.