--- Day changed Sat Jul 01 2017 00:52 -!- coins123 [~coins123@93.68.199.32] has joined #joinmarket 00:52 -!- coins123 [~coins123@93.68.199.32] has quit [Changing host] 00:52 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 01:56 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:11 -!- swoup [~swoup@45.76.118.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:11 -!- mryandao [~mryandao@unaffiliated/mryandao] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:55 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.202.107.147] has joined #joinmarket 04:06 < MaxSan> erm 04:06 < MaxSan> can i manuually set fee? 04:06 < MaxSan> Im getting a stupid fee estimation error 04:06 < MaxSan> absurd even 04:18 < waxwing> MaxSan: yes it's in the config 04:18 < waxwing> search for "absurd" 04:18 < MaxSan> yeah but it will still set a fee that is too high compaired to the network 04:18 < MaxSan> can i set a manual fee? 04:19 < waxwing> oh you mean your own choice, i see, my mistake 04:19 < MaxSan> there is only like 1k txs or something in mempool 04:19 < waxwing> yes you can't actually. *but* you set tx_fees 04:19 < waxwing> do you have a Core instance, yes? 04:19 < waxwing> do estimatefee N for various values of N . try like 10 or 15 or 20 04:19 < waxwing> if you think the fee estimate per kB is reasonable at 10, then set tx_fees = 10 in the config 04:20 < MaxSan> ok 04:20 < MaxSan> il try 04:21 < waxwing> a completely manually set fee is a reasonable thing to add to the system (per KB of course, not total, since you don't know how big the tx will be). but in the old days fees didn't change so fast, so it made more sense to protect the user (and his counterparties) from making a bad decision. 04:40 < MaxSan> satoshi per byte is so much easier to read 04:44 < waxwing> yeah 04:44 < waxwing> were you able to use estimatefee to get a reasonable number? 04:45 < waxwing> adding a specifically sat/byte fee setting option should be a pretty small patch if anyone wants to do it 04:53 < waxwing> if anyone wants to, i think easiest/best way is to add a function `set_fee_per_kB` to the BlockchainInterface class, then put a check in estimate_fee_per_kb in BitcoinCoreInterface on an instance variable that was set, and use that if it's set. then add it as an option flag to sendpayment script. 04:54 < waxwing> note that -x fee setting is kind of an old, not really used any more thing; the complexities come out of having to re-estimate after we know the real inputs for the full coinjoin transaction. 04:55 < waxwing> so the process is like (1) estimate how many coins to select from the wallet based on an initial txfee estimate, then (b) coordinate to build the transaction, then (c) re-estimate the fee correctly based on knowing the full tx; and hope that the newly calculated fee doesn't overrun the total coins you selected in your inputs. 04:56 < waxwing> but all that complexity is orthogonal to having a fee *per kb* being settable by the user, currently it's only queried to the Core rpc `estimatefee`, and the user can only reset the block target (with tx_fees in the config) 04:56 < MaxSan> doesnt seem to be sending generally 04:56 < waxwing> MaxSan: what doesn't? 04:56 < waxwing> coinjoins seem to be working ok atm 04:57 < waxwing> hmm having said that my logs seem to have last message from half an hour ago, perhaps something's up on IRC? 04:58 < MaxSan> i think so 04:58 < MaxSan> as i try n send payment and it fails 04:59 < waxwing> hmm no i think both IRCs are up, i just saw messages from both of them 04:59 < waxwing> MaxSan: if you are not getting enough info on the terminal, you can go into logs/ look at the last log file, it has full debug log output. 04:59 < waxwing> atm i can't help with "it fails" 05:02 < MaxSan> sorry have a headache since the passed 2 days hard to focus on tech stuff =/ 05:02 < MaxSan> and im cooking, multitasking etc lol 05:02 < MaxSan> its not so important right now anyway 07:45 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-240-13-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 08:22 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has joined #joinmarket 09:26 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 09:45 -!- zxccxz [6dc7e356@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.199.227.86] has joined #joinmarket 09:51 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-240-13-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:18 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44 -!- skizye [skizye@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-nqsfivhdvjvsegkb] has joined #joinmarket 10:44 -!- skizye [skizye@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-nqsfivhdvjvsegkb] has left #joinmarket [] 10:53 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:58 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 12:19 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53 -!- MaxSan [~one@109.202.107.147] has left #joinmarket [] 12:58 -!- madgoat [~GK.1WM.SU@192.240.212.2] has joined #joinmarket 13:00 -!- madgoat [~GK.1WM.SU@192.240.212.2] has left #joinmarket [] 13:49 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-240-13-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 14:47 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 17:41 -!- emsid [~emsid@unaffiliated/emsid] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:03 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has joined #joinmarket 19:10 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:18 -!- viasil [~viasil@198.12.75.25] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:47 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:53 -!- emsid [~emsid@unaffiliated/emsid] has joined #joinmarket 20:55 -!- viasil [~viasil@198.12.75.25] has joined #joinmarket 23:20 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket