--- Day changed Wed Aug 02 2017 00:09 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 00:14 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:16 -!- coins123 [~coins123@ip-244-225.sn1.clouditalia.com] has joined #joinmarket 00:16 -!- coins123 [~coins123@ip-244-225.sn1.clouditalia.com] has quit [Changing host] 00:16 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 01:38 -!- https_GK1wmSU [~deep-book@85.9.20.149] has joined #joinmarket 01:40 -!- https_GK1wmSU [~deep-book@85.9.20.149] has left #joinmarket [] 01:56 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ppp-88-217-115-224.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #joinmarket 02:05 -!- Crushed-Box [~Crushed-B@host81-135-97-41.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #joinmarket 02:29 < waxwing> agora spam games again. 02:37 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ppp-88-217-115-224.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:41 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ppp-88-217-115-224.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #joinmarket 02:51 -!- zxccxz [6dc7e35d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.199.227.93] has joined #joinmarket 02:58 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ppp-88-217-115-224.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:15 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ppp-88-217-115-224.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #joinmarket 03:31 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:46 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #joinmarket 03:58 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:08 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #joinmarket 05:51 < MaxSan> waxwing: quick q you seem to be the best person to answer this.. 05:52 < MaxSan> is there a simple way to send out coins from JM directly to a BCH account ? 05:52 < waxwing> MaxSan: no, not a simple way. due to different sig algo. 05:53 < MaxSan> hmmmmm 05:53 < MaxSan> any recommendations on how to go about this? 05:53 < waxwing> i'd advise moving coins to electrum or trezor or something, fees on btc are cheap now (use direct send). then, follow their guides. and use serious caution, i'd advise waiting longer. 05:54 < waxwing> i did a test with some coins in one of my electrum wallets earlier today. it's a hassle even when you go for the easiest approach to it. and they can't seem to mine any blocks anyway... 05:54 < belcher> could you import the private keys rather than moving them? 05:54 < MaxSan> or JM seed compatible with uhhh 05:54 < MaxSan> trezor? 05:54 < waxwing> belcher: i wouldn't, but i guess it might be possible 05:55 < MaxSan> i have a second trezor i can seed and then use their splitting tool 05:55 < waxwing> MaxSan: no, def not, they might be on the new segwit thing i've been working on (well, pretty sure they will be), but that's a way off. 05:55 < MaxSan> which works 05:55 < MaxSan> they have both implemented seperately 05:55 < waxwing> and even if so that'll be specifically only trezor since wallet devs cannot seem to agree on standards :( 05:56 < MaxSan> it uses 39/41/44 05:56 < waxwing> MaxSan: it uses 39/49 for segwit, or will do, but anyway that's for another time 05:57 < waxwing> you can try messing around all kinds of ways. i could probably do bch split by coding it, but i'm almost certainly not going to, and i wouldn't publish it if i did. 05:57 < MaxSan> i thought JM uses standard HD pathing for its wallets 05:57 < MaxSan> il split on trezor if i can just import then and split it that way 05:57 < waxwing> current path is not on any standard i believe. certainly not bip44 in any case. 05:58 < waxwing> JM is not compatible with other wallets in terms of HD path 05:59 < waxwing> there's no point getting too worked up about this stuff, you can't get this stuff onto exchanges. if you rush you're much more likely to screw it up. 06:00 < waxwing> bugs getting reported all the time e.g. trezor today/yesterday had one. 06:03 < MaxSan> yeah i seen this 06:03 < MaxSan> Im liquidating this as fast as i can, and planning to do something fairly positive with the funds 06:04 < MaxSan> as much as political move of not holding this nonsense and for the benefit of what i want to see succeed 06:04 < waxwing> how can you sell it? exchanges aren't/can't accept deposits 06:04 < waxwing> lack of blocks is a slight technical issue :) 06:07 < belcher> blocks still arrive eventually.. slowly.. 06:09 < MaxSan> im selling offmarket as a direct sale 06:11 < waxwing> MaxSan: ok. 06:12 < MaxSan> well trying 06:12 < belcher> at what price MaxSan ? and where did you find your counterparty? 06:13 < MaxSan> well tbh im struggling to get it done 06:13 < MaxSan> i was going to sell at 150GBP last night 06:13 < MaxSan> now he said its too expensive 06:13 < MaxSan> but im willing to liquidate WAY below current market rate 06:14 < belcher> well the "market rate" is a bit fake, if blocks are very slow and many exchanges dont even accept deposits 06:15 < waxwing> dat price discovery :) 06:16 < waxwing> MaxSan: another example of why not to rush: https://twitter.com/ElectrumWallet/status/892731209259864064 06:16 < waxwing> entire ecosystem is in a bit of a shambles with this stuff. i mean one can always try to take risks if one things there's a profit, but important to get the risk assessment right 06:18 < waxwing> hah it's funny i see thomasv highlighted the exact same line that i did when someone showed me that commit :) 06:18 < waxwing> "if True or self.is_segwit_input" 06:18 < waxwing> ?? 06:19 < waxwing> ok he did for clarity but turned out it screwed something up anyway :) 06:27 < MaxSan> waxwing: its why I onky sent bch directly to s supporting exchange to liquidate. no fucking about 06:27 < MaxSan> slightly fly as my own person deposits address is not yet open ; 06:27 < MaxSan> ;) 06:34 -!- Crushed-Box [~Crushed-B@host81-135-97-41.range81-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:44 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@static-100-38-216-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #joinmarket 06:55 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@static-100-38-216-231.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:43 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:52 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 09:52 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:35 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has joined #joinmarket 10:53 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 10:58 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:54 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 12:00 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:39 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:40 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #joinmarket 12:41 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:42 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #joinmarket 12:56 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 13:00 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:49 -!- https_GK1wmSU [~d33p-b00k@91.221.67.85] has joined #joinmarket 13:51 -!- https_GK1wmSU [~d33p-b00k@91.221.67.85] has left #joinmarket [] 14:58 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 15:02 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:33 -!- https_GK1wmSU [~deep-book@119.81.230.146] has joined #joinmarket 15:34 -!- https_GK1wmSU [~deep-book@119.81.230.146] has left #joinmarket [] 15:58 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 15:59 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ppp-88-217-115-224.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:59 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ppp-88-217-115-224.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #joinmarket 16:03 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:18 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:38 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has joined #joinmarket 16:42 -!- MaxSan [~one@185.156.175.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:59 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 17:03 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:21 -!- http_GK1wmSU [~deep-book@119.81.230.146] has joined #joinmarket 17:24 -!- http_GK1wmSU [~deep-book@119.81.230.146] has left #joinmarket [] 18:00 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 18:04 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:01 -!- coins123 [~coins123@ip-244-225.sn1.clouditalia.com] has joined #joinmarket 19:01 -!- coins123 [~coins123@ip-244-225.sn1.clouditalia.com] has quit [Changing host] 19:01 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 19:05 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:01 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 20:06 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:42 -!- Giszmo1 [~leo@ppp-88-217-110-125.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #joinmarket 20:43 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ppp-88-217-115-224.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:02 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 21:07 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:03 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 22:07 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:04 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 23:09 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]