--- Day changed Sun Aug 27 2017
00:11 < exile> it would be great if we could check the approx total fee with the tumbler before accepting transactions
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08:09 < numer0us> Hey I'm having some trouble using sendpayment, I keep getting a not enough liquidity error when trying to send a payment
08:15 < waxwing> new segwit version or existing version (1 addresses or 3)?
08:16 < numer0us> mm I'm not sure
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08:17 < waxwing> addresses in your jm wallet start with 1 or 3 i meant
08:17 < waxwing> sorry was trying to find the fast way of distinguishing. failed. you could also tell us where you downloaded it from.
08:19 < numer0us> it's the 1 addresses
08:19 < waxwing> right, what -N setting did you use? don't tell us the amount, but if it's very small or very large that can cause lack of liquidity (lack of counterparties)
08:19 < waxwing> but to be honest it's fairly rare. 
08:19 < numer0us> I also just want to empty out each mixing depth to one address, is it possible to do that in a single command?
08:20 < waxwing> one per mixing depth
08:20 < numer0us> what's a good range for the number of counterparties
08:20 < numer0us> don't care too much about anonymity at this point :P
08:20 < waxwing> if you don't want to bother with counterparties you can use -N 0 to send directly.
08:20 < numer0us> okay cool
08:20 < waxwing> which will be cheaper.
08:20 < numer0us> yeah I'll try that
08:21 < waxwing> so for each mixing depth k use `python sendpayment.py -N 0 -m k walletname 0 destaddr`
08:21 < waxwing> also consider resetting tx_fees in joinmarket.cfg; read the comments above it
08:23 < numer0us> sorry, resetting the tx_fees to what?
08:23 < waxwing> read the comments above it
08:25 < numer0us> so would I set it to 0 since I'll be sending it directly?
08:26 < waxwing> tx_fees? no, set it to your target for how many blocks to get confirmation in. if you set it to 10 you're intending it to get confirmed in the next 10 blocks.
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08:29 < numer0us> Hmm now I'm getting a failed blockr.io txpush message
08:30 < waxwing> blockr.io doesn't seem to work any more; realistically you need bitcoin core.
08:30 < waxwing> however you could set blockchain_source to electrum and try that
08:30 < waxwing> it's a bit flaky but it's at least more likely to work.
08:31 < waxwing> also if you have the raw transaction, you can try to push it somewhere; but if you were getting data from blockr.io it might not be valid.
08:34 < numer0us> hmm, so is there any additional config I need to do after setting the source to electrum
08:35 < waxwing> no, but no promises unfortunately; it depends on choosing an electrum server that actually responds. if it fails to connect it'll just quit and you'll need to try again.
08:36 < waxwing> see https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/blob/master/joinmarket/electruminterface.py#L18-L34
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08:36 < numer0us> ok ill give it a shot
08:37 < waxwing> personally i'd actually like to support that mode and give it a shot; others aren't so enthusiastic but i think we need something to bridge the gap until we have a decent light client solution that works properly and has some kind of privacy.
08:37 < waxwing> for decent privacy today, Core is basically a requirement.
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09:56 < waxwing> rebuilt the binaries; the guy who said he had a core dump (not here unfortunately), pretty sure what it was, because i got the same effect when trying to load a wallet - basically it tries to use the host OS file open dialog and craps out.
09:56 < waxwing> this fixes: https://github.com/AdamISZ/joinmarket-clientserver/commit/36fdf26faf219bdd727673f94901dd08d0b56d3e
09:57 < waxwing> also fixed the issue with accessing mnemonic library. so hopefully both linux and windows binaries work now, for those interested (probably no one here :) )
09:57 < waxwing> arubi: gonna try out your new install now.
09:58 < arubi> cool, let me know
09:58 < waxwing> i'll try a fresh 1604. could try debian 9 after.
10:01 < arubi> I'm trying it now on debian 6 again, trying to make it fail in ways I didn't expect.  found two so far so I'll make more changes soon :)
10:08 < waxwing> arubi: about your virtualenv comment
10:09 < waxwing> i read about it a bit when i was first looking at this, it seemed it was a bit of a mess trying to do it in the script, i agree it makes more sense to have it be a final manual command.
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10:10 < arubi> yea, if only for having the user do it themselves once
10:11 < waxwing> openssl is a ridiculous lumbering beast
10:11 < waxwing> it's building rc2 wtf :)
10:12 < arubi> what rc2?
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10:12 < arubi> the bitcoin ppa you mean?
10:12 < waxwing> well before rc4 
10:13 < arubi> not following
10:13 < waxwing> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC2
10:13 < waxwing> i saw des and rc4 so assuming from context :)
10:13 < arubi> ohhh haha :)
10:14 < waxwing> arubi: does it automatically check for valid signatures or something? i'm thinking of what we did before for libsodium
10:18 < arubi> yea, it checks for openssl and libsodium sigs and /should/ fail if they're incorrect
10:19 < arubi> actually good idea to check all possibilities for it failing too
10:20 < arubi> the openssl sig check is right at the start and scrolls up fast.  the sig check of libsodium is after libbffi stuff and should hang for a second or so on screen as autogen.sh runs
10:21 < waxwing> gotcha, thanks
10:22 < waxwing> all looks good so far; can import the jm* packages in the virtualenv
10:23 < arubi> awesome.  if you run `./test/run_tests.sh` it should go over everything
10:33 < waxwing> arubi: got all errors, this is going to take some figuring out
10:34 < arubi> is bitcoind\-cli in your path?
10:34 < waxwing> no     
10:34 < arubi> ah, gotta be in your path
10:35 < waxwing> i'm going to try doing txs first, get that working
10:35 < arubi> alright
10:39 < waxwing> ok, txs work. i'll add to path and try run_tests again
10:42 < waxwing> arubi: ? : https://github.com/AdamISZ/joinmarket-clientserver/pull/64/files#diff-d83a620dfa3ec1bb27fd6c6dd172e526R48
10:43 < waxwing> tests all passed, good stuff.
10:43 < arubi> travis-ci docs say that this variable is set to "true" when running on travis stuff
10:43 < arubi> so this should expand to --cov... when on travis only
10:43 < waxwing> ah, how interesting :)
10:44 < arubi> yea they have a bunch, but this is probably set like that to make it obscure enough that it doesn't appear somewhere else :)
10:44 < arubi> I mean, they also have "CI=true", and well
10:45 < waxwing> ok; i'm satisfied now. i'll read through the code a bit, but i'll be ready to merge it when you are.
10:45 < arubi> it does expand, but I think the way the cov tests run now is different.  the logs from travis show the difference between this run and a previous one without.  I have just a couple things still, I'll push a bit later
10:45 < waxwing> have to look up the github-merge setup again.
10:46 < arubi> oh I think I know what I did wrong, it expands to one single long string instead of multiple --cov elements.  will fix
10:46 < waxwing> well the coverage is broken and a lot of tests need some rework. still a lot of the core parts are tested (enough that i often break them when i push commits...)
10:47 < arubi> heh, I know what you mean
10:50 < waxwing> http://segwit.5gbfree.com/countsegwit .. some gradual increase seen. i think we had at least 8-10 of them :)
10:51 < arubi> slowly but surely :)  should make the move too.  need a couple days off to prepare the "ritual"
10:52 < waxwing> well .. no need to do it all at once. an initial chunk for near-term spends makes sense.
10:53 < arubi> yea probably right.  I can manage one output outside of backup for small stuff
10:53 < arubi> well, outside of good backup..
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11:06 < waxwing> arubi: for some reason coveralls check is pending; https://coveralls.io/builds/13003705 doesn't seem to help diagnose.
11:06 < waxwing> anyway i'm ready to merge whenever it's finished, will move on to alexcato's thing now
11:07 < arubi> sure, I'll also ping after I push soon
11:27 < arubi> waxwing, done, I think coveralls actually ran this time too
11:28 < arubi> oh wair
11:28 < arubi> t     
11:28 < waxwing> heh     
11:28 < arubi> oh, coveralls isn't present at all in the results this time
11:29 < waxwing> don't worry about it; it's something that be fixed another time anyway
11:29 < arubi> build did complete, the log shows a huge html file https://api.travis-ci.org/jobs/268959070/log.txt?deansi=true
11:29 < arubi> (log is huge).  okay then, just weird how it acts different this time :)
11:29 < waxwing> yes it is different, agreed.
11:30 < waxwing> but doesn't work in either case, so, shrug
11:30 < arubi> okay, really it looks like a response page from coveralls
11:30 < arubi> heh, <title>Coveralls :: Oops, something went wrong (500)</title>
11:31 < arubi> sounds like an error you'd get on windows
11:33 < arubi> well I shouldn't make fun... https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/a379f71a30dddbd2e7393624e455ce53c87965d1/lib/strncpy_from_user.c#L69-L77
11:35 < waxwing> arubi: look at the end of that log. kinda interesting.
11:36 < waxwing> failed to json parse the response of 'wear()' whatever that is. ok not really interesting :)
11:41 < arubi> oh hehe, wear() coveralls
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