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00:23 < user16841321> hi     
00:23 < user16841321> anyone that can help with joinmarket-clientserver in the chat?
00:57 < hardtryer> Hi, I'm here, but I even can't launch 1 send :) so not sure I can help, but ask question
00:58 < hardtryer> maybe somebody else will answer you, if I don't know
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01:07 < user16841321> hi     
01:07 < user16841321> sorry was afk for a while
01:07 < user16841321> what works is wallet-tool and sendpayment
01:09 < user16841321> but when i run the yield-generator or yg- priv.. it justs sits there without doing anything
01:09 < user16841321> i don't know if it's that there are no takers or if there is another issue
01:10 < user16841321> [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  JM daemon setup complete
01:10 < user16841321> is the last printout in the console
01:12 < waxwing> user16841321, that's correct
01:12 < hardtryer> try to run ob-watcher.py
01:13 < hardtryer> oh, sure, it's correct behavior: yield generator just wait for takers
01:13 < waxwing> user16841321, you can set console_log_level to DEBUG in the console, but you won't see anything anyway ... you'll only see something when someone requests offers from you. it can be quiet for some time. i've been getting about 1 or 2 txs a day last few days.
01:14 < waxwing> ok just looking, yeah you just see the occasional low level "nick switch" or "user left" message, and some offer request privmsgs with debug set to on.
01:14 < user16841321> thanks, i just set it to debug and it seems to connect to the irc correctly 
01:14 < waxwing> yes it's probably rather *too* quiet on INFO
01:14 < user16841321> [DEBUG]  joined:  #joinmarket-pit
01:14 < waxwing> but it should be default DEBUG anyway in the log file in logs/
01:14 < user16841321> and the msg apear too
01:14 < user16841321> that was the part i was missing 
01:16 < user16841321> thanks, i will try getting the ob-watcher to run later today
01:16 < user16841321> have to run now
01:16 < user16841321> thanks for the quick help :)
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01:16 < hardtryer> waxwing, I tryed today to work with your testbot on freenode, just wanted to see orders and use ob-watcher, but it shows nothing. It enter channel, send !orderbook, receive priv message, but can't understand them. It tell something like 'cmd is not in cmd_list'.
01:19 < waxwing> hardtryer, what version of the code are you running?
01:19 < waxwing> you need to use the code at https://github.com/AdamISZ/joinmarket-clientserver
01:20 < hardtryer> I make it myself, and see that bots send me 'swreloffer', and I can't find this command in message protocol on github. It's just reloffer and absoffer
01:20 < hardtryer> oh     
01:21 < hardtryer> that's the problem
01:21 < hardtryer> ok, thx, try it now
01:21 < hardtryer> used https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket
01:22 < waxwing> yes .. the situation is confusing but will become less so over the next couple of months, hopefully
01:23 < waxwing> basically for now think of it as: joinmarket with non-segwit (and with '1' addresses) use joinmarket-org/joinmarket, for segwit use adamisz/joinmarket-clientserver
01:23 < waxwing> will move the latter to joinmarket-org/joinmarket-clientserver soon and then somehow we will merge back into 1 repository instead of two, probably, *quite* soon (but not very soon)
01:28 < hardtryer> ok     
01:29 < hardtryer> it's just open source, understood, nobody can do it full time.
01:30 < hardtryer> I think maybe there is need to write some small guide for make one simple test coinjoin
01:31 < hardtryer> cause I try it last 4 days, and it's really not clear to make it. Just read a lot and tryed many times with different settings
01:35 < hellow0rld> waxwing: which bitoin-core version i need in orer to run joinmarket-client and then the plugin in electrum?
01:36 < waxwing> for the segwit version of JM you need 0.13.1 minimum (thats the first segwit enabled version), for the non-segwit version of JM you can use i think 0.10 or above. in both cases though there's no sense to use anything less than the latest release (0.14.2)
01:37 < hellow0rld> thank you!
01:43 < hellow0rld> hmm     
01:43 < hellow0rld> hello@hello-world:~/Desktop/bitcoin-0.14.2$ ./autogen.sh  configuration failed, please install autoconf first
01:44 < waxwing> hardtryer, for the new version it be best to start here: https://www.reddit.com/r/joinmarket/comments/6vy3ut/release_for_segwit_joinmarketcs_codebase/
01:44 < waxwing> hellow0rld, well there's a list of apt-get requirements in the docs for bitcoin. i can look up the link if you like (but better ask in #bitcoin about that)
01:45 < hellow0rld> it's fine, i now see bitcoin has a PPA in ubuntu
01:45 < hellow0rld> i'll try install it that way, much better than building from source
01:46 < waxwing> well yes, or you can download the binaries and verify the signatures. all three ways are OK.
01:47 < waxwing> hardtryer, the installation instructions are in the "Quickstart" section here: https://github.com/AdamISZ/joinmarket-clientserver#quickstart
01:47 < waxwing> this links also to usage guide: https://github.com/AdamISZ/joinmarket-clientserver/blob/master/docs/USAGE.md
01:47 < waxwing> this leads through all the steps to making a single coinjoin.
01:49 < hellow0rld> bitcoin-core is running
01:50 < hellow0rld> i assume everything has to be pre-configured? so i should not go forward with installing joinmarketd before configuring bitcoin-core?
01:50 < waxwing> what do you mean by 'preconfigured'? you're going to have to wait for bitcoin to sync before using joinmarket
01:51 < waxwing> you'll need to edit the rpc configuration, i believe that's explained in the usage/configuration guide for joinmarket that i linked just now above ^
01:53 < hellow0rld> i understand, i meant 'preconfigured' as in synced, yes
01:54 < hellow0rld> ok, i've now downloaded the clientserver too
01:56 < hellow0rld> whoa, it's going to take forever
01:59 < hellow0rld> does tesnet replace the long waiting time of bitcoin-core?
01:59 < hellow0rld> testnet*
02:00 < waxwing> testnet is about 12GB, so yes it's a lot less sync time of course. but for mainnet sync, it's only a one-time problem.
02:01 < hellow0rld> i see, well the main joinmarket won't stay on my PC anyways so i'll use the testnet
02:06 < hellow0rld> syncing testnet right now
02:22 < hellow0rld> waxwing: after testnet is synced, can i continue with further steps described here https://github.com/AdamISZ/electrum-joinmarket-plugin#installation ?
02:29 < arubi> wtf github
02:30 < arubi> I think I somehow broke my local branch and now it's ending up trying to PR stuff that isn't mine
02:30 < arubi> sigh, trying to fix this..
02:38 < hardtryer> waxwing, thx for answers and link. Ask on reddit about windows installation (cause I tryed it right now). But looks like it's not possible. Get some errors when launch setupall.py: after 'running build_clib' there are error "[Error 193] %1 is not a valid Win32 application"
02:39 < hardtryer> and then some red text about secp256k1
02:41 < waxwing> hellow0rld, you're trying to use the electrum plugin?
02:41 < waxwing> you did notice the bold text at the top of that README right?
02:42 < waxwing> hardtryer, so you're following the instructions in the wiki article i linked? i didn't realise you were trying to do this on Windows
02:42 < waxwing> that was never particularly easy unless you just use the exe binary
02:42 < waxwing> hardtryer, it's almost like you're deliberately finding every conceivable way to make it not work :)
02:43 < waxwing> honestly there's another case, a person running linux and running bitcoin can be up and running with this in a matter of a few minutes :)
02:45 < hardtryer> yes, looks like :DDDD
02:46 < waxwing> yes i can't guarantee you will be able to make it work on Windows, my advice would be: try: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/wiki/Installing-JoinMarket-on-Windows ; if it doesn't work, probably don't waste any more time on it now.
02:47 < hardtryer> I allready installed joinmarket on windows
02:47 < waxwing> you should be able to run the joinmarket-qt.exe program to do coinjoins. if you can't please let me know, i tested it on Win7 at least.
02:47 < hardtryer> work with scripts, but it's just tesbot
02:47 < waxwing> hardtryer, but you said you got setupall.py errors
02:47 < hardtryer> so there is no any bots for normal jonmarket 
02:48 < hardtryer> I get setupall errors when installed your scripts
02:48 < hardtryer> not normal one
02:48 < hardtryer> ok     
02:48 < hardtryer> let me try laucnh joinmarket-qt.exe
02:48 < waxwing> understood. again, i think we already covered this, the only testnet bots are running the new segwit based joinmarket.
02:49 < waxwing> there are no non-segwit bots running on testnet.
02:49 < waxwing> they only exist because i'm running them; no one else is.
02:49 < waxwing> other people could be running any kinds of bot anywhere, but they're not, except for mainnet (real) bitcoin bots.
02:50 < waxwing> yes, the existing instructions for installing scripts on windows with the non-segwit joinmarket works, i know because i spent a ridiculous number of hours figuring out how to do it :)
02:50 < waxwing> but yeah, you're right, they dont' work for the new version and i'm not hugely enthused about spending tons more hours figuring out how to do it. someone else could.
02:57 < hardtryer> yes, inderstood, thanks for your hardwork. I remember about bots
03:07 < hardtryer> so Qt launched, but can't load wallet from seed. I think there is some my errors in config to connect to bitcoin core. The error in coinjoin's tab is 'LookUpError: Unable to find "devil" in word list'
03:08 < hardtryer> will search what settings is needed
03:08 < waxwing> where did you get that seed phrase?
03:09 < waxwing> so, on testnet you can use just a hex string instead of a full wallet (like "abcd1234"), i assume you have `network = testnet` in your cfg file
03:10 < waxwing> i mean "instead of a full wallet seedphrase".
03:10 < waxwing> sorry will be afk for next several hours
03:11 < hardtryer> ok     
03:12 < hardtryer> I make one wallet in other system. Don't remember which one. THere is some waller with testnet coins
03:16 < hellow0rld> waxwing: yes, i did notice the bold text
03:17 < hellow0rld> so i have to use a non-segwit supported version, right?
03:20 < hellow0rld> ok     
03:20 < hellow0rld> i get it
03:27 < sturles> Will it work to have both old joinmarket and segwit joinmarket on the same node?
03:33 < hellow0rld> i tried running the test, it says Coverage.py warning: Module jmclient was never imported. Coverage.py warning: Module jmbitcoin was never imported. Coverage.py warning: Module jmbase was never imported. Coverage.py warning: Module jmdaemon was never imported. Coverage.py warning: No data was collected.
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03:33 < hellow0rld> meh     
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03:48 < hardtryer> sturles, yes, they will work, cause they have different protocol, but any client, that send here !orderbook will get many different orders, from new and old segwit version's bot. It's not a problem, as I know
03:55 < hellow0rld> how do i make testnet payment using electrum via joincoin?
03:56 < hellow0rld> i have managed to install joinmarketd correctly, it is open and running
03:56 < hellow0rld> oh, i got it
03:56 < hellow0rld> i have to run ./electrum --testnet
03:59 < hellow0rld> but how do i test to see if i can send a joincoin payment?
04:02 < hardtryer> that's on what I trying last four days
04:02 < hardtryer> in diffirent ways
04:02 < hellow0rld> hm     
04:02 < hardtryer> if you make all correct, and all is working, you just need to switch on coinjoin plugin
04:03 < hardtryer> then appear tab coinjoins
04:03 < hardtryer> on this tab you can send btc
04:03 < hellow0rld> hardtryer: 
04:03 < hardtryer> but you can't do this right now
04:04 < hellow0rld> http://i.imgur.com/Ar5DR3R.png
04:04 < hardtryer> cause you need somebody, who make coinkoins transaction with you
04:04 < hellow0rld> oh, i see
04:04 < hardtryer> usually it make bots
04:05 < hellow0rld> hardtryer: so what do i need in order to make a coinjoin tx?
04:05 < hardtryer> so the problem is that electrum plugin work with old segwin, and bots that are runned online use new segwit. So you get error about liqudity or something like that
04:05 < hellow0rld> what address to you use for testing out the joincoin in electrum?
04:06 < hellow0rld> i see
04:06 < hardtryer> address to send? Or irc address?
04:06 < hellow0rld> address to send?
04:06 < hellow0rld> recipient adddress
04:06 < hardtryer> there is no working bot for it, so you will be unable to send. 
04:07 < hellow0rld> i get it, so i still need mannet to real test it right?
04:08 < hellow0rld> hardtryer: 
04:08 < hardtryer> recipient address you can use any testnet address you want. You can create new, or use more one from your wallet. You just need to be possible to check the balance
04:08 < hardtryer> yes, you can make real test now
04:08 < hellow0rld> ok, thank you
04:08 < hellow0rld> let me try
04:08 < hardtryer> it should work (I haven't try it)
04:09 < hardtryer> try, and tell me, if all is ok
04:09 < hardtryer> and which error you get, when tryed to send testnet bitcoin? 
04:09 < hardtryer> I can't see it on screenshot
04:10 < hardtryer> Intresting, is my the same or not
04:10 < hellow0rld> hardtryer: what are you exactly trying to do ?
04:12 < hellow0rld> i generated a testnest address here
04:12 < hellow0rld> https://www.bitaddress.org/bitaddress.org-v3.3.0-SHA256-dec17c07685e1870960903d8f58090475b25af946fe95a734f88408cef4aa194.html?testnet=true
04:12 < hellow0rld> let's see
04:12 < hellow0rld> it says "connecting to irc ..."
04:13 < hellow0rld> "recieved offers from joinmarket pit"
04:13 < hellow0rld> what does that mean?
04:13 < hellow0rld> hardtryer: 
04:13 < hellow0rld> im uploading ss now
04:14 < hellow0rld> http://i.imgur.com/RaRhc7k.png
04:14 < hellow0rld> not enough liquidity as you said
04:14 < hellow0rld> so probably the transaction would have gone trough
04:14 < hellow0rld> if it was made on mainnet
04:17 < hellow0rld> waxwing: are you still with us?
04:18 < hardtryer> waxwing, I trying to use Qt. Don't know why, but on windows 10 (without bitcoin core installed) I can launch only version 5 (protocol and gui). If I try one from latest release, it shows error 'invalid blockchain source' (I use the same settings). On windows 7(with bitcoin core installed) it launched (connected to bitcoin rpc) but can't work with wallet as described before. The seed I use 
04:18 < hardtryer> is the same. Oh and I can't load new wallet on win7 too (created wallet file from this Qt). Looks like it still can't connecte to blockchain source.
04:18 < hardtryer> no he left for couple hours
04:19 < hardtryer> I trying to do test coinjoins
04:19 < hardtryer> no matter how 
04:19 < hardtryer> scripts, plugin, Qt, normal scripts, I used all of this and read about all of this.
04:20 < hellow0rld> hardtryer: may i ask, you might know the answer
04:20 < hellow0rld> do you know if the bots on the irc channel are open-source?
04:20 < hardtryer> still can't (I haven't tryed to make my yield generator = bot, which I should try next I think)
04:21 < hellow0rld> i understand
04:21 < hellow0rld> wan't talking about that bot but the bots that generate offers on irc channel
04:21 < hardtryer> yes, of couse. You can launch bot yourself
04:21 < hellow0rld> on my own irc server?
04:21 < hardtryer> yes     
04:21 < hardtryer> no problem
04:22 < hellow0rld> for this i have to download joinmarket-clientserver-master ?
04:22 < hardtryer> But haven't tryed it
04:22 < hardtryer> yes, if you want to work from plugin
04:22 < hellow0rld> from plugin = as an admin ?? right ?
04:23 < hardtryer> no, to run bot you must use script. There is no way to launch bot from qt or plugin
04:23 < hellow0rld> yes     
04:23 < hardtryer> from plugin = from electrum coinjoins plugin
04:23 < hellow0rld> yes     
04:24 < hardtryer> oh     
04:24 < hardtryer> and forget
04:25 < hardtryer> your must use Bitcoin core to launch bots. 
04:25 < hellow0rld> yes, i understand
04:25 < hardtryer> must be installed on this system
04:26 < hellow0rld> ok, i think i got it all
04:27 < hellow0rld> so, i have bitcoin-core, joinmarket-clientserver-0.013, joinmarketd, electrum with joinmarket plugin
04:28 < hardtryer> read this to launch bot: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/wiki/Running-a-Yield-Generator
04:28 < hellow0rld> in theory, i have to synx bitcoin-core and install joinmarket-clientserver-0.013 and it will start working
04:29 < hellow0rld> yes     
04:29 < hellow0rld> i also need yield bot
04:30 < hardtryer> and as writed before: for the non-segwit version of JM you can use i think 0.10 or above.
04:31 < hellow0rld> yes, 0.013 is good for non-segwit
04:31 < hellow0rld> oh man, i hope this is going to work eventually
04:32 < hardtryer> yes, looks like in theory you need this, than launch at 2 bots, than you can send bitcoin using coinjoins through your bots.
04:33 < hardtryer> just settup and install all properly (which is looks hard way for me, cause I tryed it on windows, and tryed it on linux without bitcoin core)
04:34 < hellow0rld> yes     
04:34 < hellow0rld> it's like i got a step back and now i see the bigger picture, lol
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12:30 < waxwing> arubi, thanks for the work on more advanced build test. it's getting a bit above my paygrade; would you say it'd be o to leave it as is for now, and implement that container based approach after a little while later?
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13:50 < hardtryer> waxwing, I trying to use Qt. Don't know why, but on windows 10 (without bitcoin core installed) I can launch only version 5 (protocol and gui). If I try one from latest release, it shows error 'invalid blockchain source' (I use the same settings). On windows 7(with bitcoin core installed) it launched (connected to bitcoin rpc) but can't work with wallet as described before. The seed I use 
13:50 < hardtryer> is the same. Oh and I can't load new wallet on win7 too (created wallet file from this Qt). Looks like it still can't connecte to blockchain source. It's just for your info: today I loading blockchain core testnet in linux, so really hope tommorow will do my first test coinjoin's transaction.
13:52 < waxwing> "without bitcoin core can only load version 5 (old protocol)", yes this is expected, new version will not accept blockr.io as a blockchain source (because it doesn't work any more).
13:52 < waxwing> the stuff about wallets not loading, we'd need to go through in detail what's happening. probably tomorrow, it's late here.
13:56 < hardtryer> oh, okay. I feel that it's something that is expected for you) Thx, don't know about blockr.
13:56 < hardtryer> Ok, see you tommotow. I will be here from morning.
13:56 < waxwing> so 'can't work with wallet'? what wallet? you have a wallet file for testnet, but it's not loading?
13:58 < hardtryer> let me explain, if you intrested
13:58 < waxwing> earlier you said "can't load wallet from seed"; so it means you chose "recover" on the menu?
13:58 < hardtryer> don't know what wallet, you can try yourself, it's testnet's wallet, I can give you the seed
13:58 < hardtryer> so I try to recover from seed
13:58 < hardtryer> yes     
13:58 < hardtryer> choice recover
13:59 < hardtryer> I can try it right now
13:59 < waxwing> and what happens when you do it?
14:00 < hardtryer> unable to find "devil" in word list
14:00 < hardtryer> devil is in seed
14:00 < waxwing> uhuh. where did you get this seed? is it 12 words?
14:01 < hardtryer> Don't remember really
14:01 < waxwing> ah. did you get this seed from the previous version of joinmarket?
14:01 < waxwing> because that doesn't work; different dictionary.
14:01 < hardtryer> answer devil second maybe twirl war week grace give pattern bare heard
14:01 < hardtryer> yes, maybe
14:01 < hardtryer> from previous
14:01 < waxwing> this is a new mnemonic algorithm, bip39, so it's compatible with (some) other wallets like trezor, ledger (for segwit version)
14:01 < hardtryer> I think it's very likely
14:03 < waxwing> note this https://github.com/AdamISZ/joinmarket-clientserver/blob/master/docs/SEGWIT-UPGRADE.md
14:03 < waxwing> but it's really to let people understand that they have to migrate coins from any old JM wallets, if they want to use the new segwit version.
14:03 < waxwing> whether the seed dictionary is the same or not, that'd still be true, since it's using a different path in the HD wallet.
14:03 < hardtryer> so testnet's wallet seeds  is not backward compatibly with old ones
14:04 < waxwing> anyway, it's a technical detail, the point is, it has to be different, and at least now it is compatible with some other wallets.
14:04 < waxwing> the old configuration was not compatible with any other wallets at all.
14:04 < hardtryer> sounds strange, but as I undersant it's only for testnet wallet, right?
14:04 < waxwing> no it's not only for testnet.
14:04 < hardtryer> oh     
14:05 < waxwing> and again, even if the seedphrase/mnemonic algorithm had been kept the same, it *still* would not have been possible to reuse the non-segwit seedphrase. you have to migrate the coins, as per that document.
14:05 < hardtryer> that sound intresting. So to work with new version, you need to create new wallet and send money to it.
14:05 < hardtryer> ok     
14:05 < hardtryer> understood
14:05 < waxwing> so the fact that the algorithm/seedphrase dictionary has changed is actually a positive, because it now *is* compatible with some other popular wallets.
14:06 < hardtryer> I think is this information somewhere in wiki? Did I just miss that?
14:07 < waxwing> i just linked the segwit upgrade guide above. it's referred to briefly in the reddit link i gave you yesterday as well, i think.
14:07 < hardtryer> let me try create one new. As I remember there are some other error.
14:07 < waxwing> yes, you should start with 'generate'.
14:07 < hardtryer> oh. I remember, I miss segwit, cause thinked that it's some very technical details
14:08 < hardtryer> my bad
14:10 < waxwing> this section of the above-linked, specifically, addresses the (in)compatibility: https://github.com/AdamISZ/joinmarket-clientserver/blob/master/docs/SEGWIT-UPGRADE.md#information-about-the-new-wallet-type-and-compatibility
14:10 < waxwing> but tbh it's rather technical, not necessary to understand every detail :)
14:11 < hardtryer> yes, I remember the file segwit-upgrade.md
14:11 < hardtryer> so tryed to create
14:12 < hardtryer> choice generate, write seed (but I think better to make it possible copy this, if it's testnet's ON), choice name for file, in debut console the last message is DEBUG: rpc: listaddressgroupings []
14:13 < hardtryer> then, when tryed to load from meny this file, it change status bar to 'Reading wallet from blockchain...' and freeze
14:13 < hardtryer> Check settings one more time
14:14 < waxwing> yes, i noticed also a temporary freeze, i should fix that, but it should take no more than a second or two
14:14 < hardtryer> no it stay about 2 minutes now
14:14 < waxwing> then you can click the menus and see addresses starting with '2' in each mixdepth
14:14 < waxwing> hmm, i haven't seen that on windows or linux.
14:15 < waxwing> can you pastebin the contents of joinmarket.cfg please.
14:15 < waxwing> file in the same directory as joinmarket-qt
14:16 < hardtryer> ok, so the setting looks normal
14:16 < waxwing> you have bitcoin started with -testnet flag; can you check if you can run bitcoin-cli.exe -rpcpassword=yourpassword getblockchaininfo
14:16 < hardtryer> hm, I can't past ( the copy-paste from vps broke don't know why), but can write
14:16 < waxwing> sorry bitcoin-cli.exe -testnet -rpcpassword=yourpassword getblockchaininfo
14:18 < hardtryer> source: bitcoin-rpc, testnet: True, rpc_host: localhost, rpc_port, user and password are same as in bitcoin.conf
14:18 < hardtryer> bitcoin core is launched in testnet mode
14:18 < hardtryer> hm     
14:18 < waxwing> in joinmarket.cfg does it say 'network = testnet' ?
14:18 < waxwing> also this vps thing has me a bit unsure of what's going on :)
14:19 < hardtryer> yes, network=testnet
14:20 < hardtryer> let me try launch bitcoin cli with args you give me
14:20 < waxwing> ok, well we're making things as difficult as conceivably possible here; running windows, on a vps, and using testnet. and you're running a GUI version on the vps. what fun :)
14:20 < waxwing> not that doing this with mainnet would make it easier :)
14:21 < hardtryer> I used qt version Bitcoin core version
14:21 < waxwing> but problem with testnet is you're almost on your own (apart from me!)
14:21 < waxwing> hardtryer, the bitcoin-cli.exe should be in the daemon/ subdirectory
14:21 < hardtryer> found it
14:21 < waxwing> i'm not sure if you run bitcoin-qt, does it serve as a server, i think it does by default, but not sure, i never use it like that.
14:22 < waxwing> i mean rpc server of course
14:24 < hardtryer> you can set server=1 in bitcoin.conf
14:24 < hardtryer> I think it's what needed, but not sure
14:25 < hardtryer> Just read this somewhere
14:26 < hardtryer> wait, I copy paste the answer from command you give me
14:27 < hardtryer> https://imgur.com/a/v0ID1
14:27 < hardtryer> this is the result
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14:28 < waxwing> yes that's absolutely fine.
14:28 < waxwing> then i can't see any reason why it would hang when you load a wallet.
14:29 < waxwing> try now by opening and doing "Wallet->Load" and see if it reads it. it shouldn't take more than a few seconds and after you should see some "Imported x addresses" type messages in the console.
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14:29 < waxwing> but, meh, sounds like something is wrong,in rather a weird way. again, using windows + gui + over some connection to a vps makes the whole thing as obscure as it could possibly be. oh well.
14:30 < hardtryer> :D     
14:31 < hardtryer> oh, if you don't want or tyred, you can leave it. I have windows.
14:31 < hardtryer> At least it was just test
14:31 < hardtryer> https://imgur.com/qk1p7on
14:31 < hardtryer> this is the settings
14:31 < hardtryer> bitcoin on the left, and joinmarket on right
14:33 < waxwing> you have a custom rpc port, probably that's fine
14:33 < hardtryer> right now see some message about wrong curl work or install... strange, cause I didn't load anything
14:34 < waxwing> but it reminds me of something: sometimes windows requests permission to have bitcoin serving over ports
14:34 < waxwing> like you get a popup requesting if it's ok. i don't know the exact rules.
14:34 < waxwing> and if you're on a vps, i have even less idea. i guess it must be fine if you can do rpc on the command line.
14:34 < waxwing> as for the curl stuff, you can remove it for the new version, it no longer uses that. but also you can leave it, because the old (non-segwit) version uses it.
14:36 < hardtryer> trying to load wallet one more time
14:36 < waxwing> oh, but not bitcoin, it could be the daemon part which serves on 27183. i'm trying to remember if it gives a popup 'do you want to allow this application blah blah', probably it does.
14:36 < hardtryer> op     
14:36 < waxwing> although, again, no, that wouldn't matter, because it doesn't happen at the wallet load stage.
14:36 < hardtryer> it's synced
14:37 < hardtryer> don't know why
14:37 < hardtryer> but now it works
14:37 < waxwing> ok. so there was something weird just the first time. yeah that's annoying, not sure what it could be.
14:38 < hardtryer> maybe it's because I tryed all time recover old seed, than, when it fails, something broked in apps, and when I try to load new one it freezes
14:38 < hardtryer> it's not first time
14:39 < hardtryer> I got it at least three times 
14:39 < hardtryer> let me try again to recover from broken seed, than load new wallet
14:43 < hardtryer> one question: if it's 'Reading wallet from blockchain...', than can it broke reading, if I change tab?
14:44 < hardtryer> If yes, than I think it's the reason'
14:46 < hardtryer> I recover from old (non-segwit seed), than try to load this non-segwit wallet's file, wait few second, than try to load new one (which I successfully load before) and it's still show me status "Reading wallet from blockchain...". I think it's broke, cause it past about 4 minutes.
14:47 < hardtryer> ok     
14:48 < hardtryer> now I go sleep. Leave irc client on, so will see all message tommorow
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20:09 < arubi> yea waxwing, should be easy to add it in at a future time if it becomes useful.  if you still want to just disable the openssl build, the only change needed is in install.sh: https://github.com/fivepiece/joinmarket-clientserver/blob/17fc1f32f8790afc3873b719d883b4cd890fee27/install.sh#L303-L307  so I think you could could also push it independently (as you can see it's already tested ;) )
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22:12 < hardtryer> waxwing, is it possible to add some notification about old seqwit seed to programm, when loading old segwit? 
22:12 < hardtryer> Or there is no way to understand old or new wallet's seed it is?
22:13 < hardtryer> I started to try to launch coinjoin on Linux with testnet's full node. Hope all be fine today
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