--- Day changed Fri Sep 15 2017 01:38 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 03:22 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:23 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 03:55 < waxwing> hmm got electrumx working on regtest locally, seems pretty cool. 03:55 < waxwing> kinda had to, dealing with testnet for testing can be a bit of a nightmare. 05:44 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 07:15 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:48 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 08:13 < belcher> someone is PMing me about coinjumble 08:47 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:48 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 08:50 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit 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quit [] 09:19 < pigeons> what is electrumx 09:20 < arubi> a different implementation of electrum server 09:26 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has joined #joinmarket 10:13 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:13 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 10:18 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:48 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 10:49 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49 -!- hardtryer [~swich@93.170.111.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:00 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-235-112-153.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #joinmarket 11:36 < waxwing> at least it's not electrum2X ;) 12:24 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 12:29 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Ping 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[~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 21:06 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:22 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@unaffiliated/waxwing] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:27 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@91.216.245.111] has joined #joinmarket 21:37 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@91.216.245.111] has quit [Changing host] 21:37 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@unaffiliated/waxwing] has joined #joinmarket 22:38 -!- Krafty [ae3dfc1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.61.252.31] has joined #joinmarket 22:40 < Krafty> I'm getting an error trying to sendpayment after it failed the first couple times. I get a commitments_debug file with a bunch of data that I don 22:40 < Krafty> that I don't understand. 22:41 < Krafty> It says I have a utxo that has been used too many times. And one that was not at least 20% the size of the coinjoin amount. 22:45 < Krafty> Hmm and now when I attempt to view my wallet, it gives me a json parsing error. Extra data: line 2 column 1. 22:48 < waxwing> Krafty, what version of joinmarket are you using. 22:49 < waxwing> and what do you mean by 'attempt to view my wallet'? are you using `python wallet-tool.py walletname`? or something else, specifically? 22:50 < Krafty> hey waxwing. I got the wallet to stop throwing the extra data error by continuing to retry. Probably a tor thing. 22:51 < Krafty> And I think I know why I'm having the commitment issue. I have .0127311 in 0/1 ... I had $50 left over in another wallet. Is that screwing with it? 22:52 < waxwing> you have various options if you have no unused, large enough commitments. 22:52 < waxwing> simplest is probably to do a sendpayment -N 0 which doesn't do a coinjoin but just sends. 22:52 < waxwing> either, to just take the money out of the wallet, or, to send to another address in the wallet, thus creating a new utxo 22:52 < waxwing> which will be then new and so you can do a coinjoin 22:53 -!- headcase_ [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53 < Krafty> I see. So I should send my 0/0 and 0/1 to 0/2 ? 22:53 < waxwing> hmm 0/2 or 2/0 ? 22:53 < waxwing> yes, send them to 2/0 using -N 0 and set the amount to zero for sweep 22:54 < waxwing> note you can use tx_fees = 50000 for example (a number > 144 will be interpreted as satoshis per kilobyte) 22:54 < Krafty> https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ says 140 per BYTE is the way to go 22:56 < waxwing> Krafty, oh sure as you wish, there are several sources on the best fee 22:56 < waxwing> i can give you a list of links 22:56 < waxwing> but, i only mentioned it, since when you're using small amounts it's nice to know 22:56 < waxwing> https://bitcoinfees.github.io/#3h 22:56 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 22:56 < Krafty> Yeah. I mean the one wallet is small, but the other has 900 bucks in it. 22:56 < waxwing> https://anduck.net/bitcoin/fees/ 22:57 < waxwing> i like those two in particular to help me think about what's reasonable, *especially* if i don't mind waiting a few blocks. 22:58 -!- headcase_ [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 22:58 < waxwing> Anduck's one is usually a few blocks behind, worth bearing in mind. 22:58 < Krafty> Interesting. It's a bit hard to understand. 22:59 < waxwing> yeah it takes a few looks at it before it starts to become easy to use, but it's worth it i think. 23:00 < Krafty> It looks like its saying that 104 has the same success rate as 140 23:01 < waxwing> so a more general comment on the commitments thing: since it failed a couple of times, bear in mind these points: 23:01 < waxwing> don't use -N 3 for example, use at least -N 5 and that lets it fall back to 2 which gives plenty of room. 23:02 < Krafty> I was using -N 5. I figured my issue was the small amount in the 0/1 23:02 < waxwing> use the external commitments feature via add_utxo.py to give you a buffer. very much optional, though. 23:02 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:02 < waxwing> ah, ok. i'm just listing some points. 23:02 < Krafty> I appreciate it. 23:02 < waxwing> third point is funding with 3 amounts. it should help avoid the issue in many cases. 23:03 < waxwing> ah so your problem came from trying to join with a very small amount? hmm not sure i follow exactly. 23:03 < Krafty> I really don't know where the problem came from. I attempt to join about 5-6 times, it kept failing each time. 23:03 < Krafty> I figured that 0/0 and 0/1 were just different addresses in the same wallet. 23:04 < Krafty> But that's the only thing I've ever done different that before. 23:04 < Krafty> ~than 23:04 < waxwing> yes 0/0 means the external branch of the 0th mixdepth. 0/1 means the internal (change) branch of the 0th mixdepth. 23:04 < waxwing> those coins will be used together when paying out of mixdepth 0. 23:04 < waxwing> ('mixdepth' = account in bip32, same thing) 23:05 < Krafty> It looks like it kept failing from unresponders 23:06 < Krafty> timeout thread woken by timoue, makers didn't respond 23:06 < waxwing> Krafty, you didn't change the setting minimum_makers in the config file? 23:06 < waxwing> should be = 2 23:06 < waxwing> but, could be connection style issues too 23:06 < waxwing> afk 23:06 < Krafty> it's different makers each time I tried too, but the error is the same. 23:06 -!- headcase_ [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:06 < Krafty> I'll double check 23:07 < Krafty> maybe I should up the 45 timeout? 23:07 < Krafty> It's set to 2 23:13 < Krafty> Alright it's moving to the next mixdepth. I paid a couple bucks to make it quick. 23:14 < Krafty> I think I should increase the timeout to higher than 45 seconds, since that was the error that got me 23:15 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 23:15 < Krafty> I'm moving it to 180. 23:20 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:21 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 23:30 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:31 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 23:31 < Krafty> I have to wait for 5 confirmations, right? 23:38 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket 23:57 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:58 -!- headcase [~headcase@unaffiliated/headcase] has joined #joinmarket