--- Day changed Thu Oct 26 2017 00:16 -!- takamatsu [takamatsu@nat/redhat/x-eqytankwqexcqpzs] has joined #joinmarket 01:56 -!- wumpus [~quassel@pdpc/supporter/professional/wumpus] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:58 -!- wumpus [~quassel@pdpc/supporter/professional/wumpus] has joined #joinmarket 02:08 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-140-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:28 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 02:55 -!- xcvvcxvcx [53e42f33@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.228.47.51] has joined #joinmarket 04:47 -!- wxss [~chatzilla@5.254.89.171] has joined #joinmarket 04:49 -!- wxss [~chatzilla@5.254.89.171] has left #joinmarket [] 05:05 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #joinmarket 05:33 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:34 < waxwing> adlai, how's cjhunt working nowadays? 05:35 < waxwing> are you keeping a record anywhere of all the txs it's finding? one idea with snicker (see discussion above) might be to let people propose coinjoins with outputs from JM joins. 05:37 < waxwing> adlai, also is the cjhunt public server working atm? i'm thinking of linking it in a blogpost 05:41 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:51 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #joinmarket 06:16 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 06:20 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:39 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-152-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 06:41 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:42 -!- goregrind [~goregrind@unaffiliated/goregrind] has joined #joinmarket 06:45 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #joinmarket 06:59 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-152-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:18 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 07:22 -!- proslogion [~proslogio@104.236.136.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:22 -!- proslogion [~proslogio@113.110.182.59] has joined #joinmarket 07:28 -!- proslogion [~proslogio@113.110.182.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:29 -!- proslogion [~proslogio@104.236.136.185] has joined #joinmarket 07:35 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:11 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-198-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 08:34 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-198-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:34 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-198-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 08:39 -!- undeath [~undeath@unaffiliated/undeath] has joined #joinmarket 08:59 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:25 -!- takamatsu [takamatsu@nat/redhat/x-eqytankwqexcqpzs] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:26 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-198-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:37 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has joined #joinmarket 09:44 < undeath> are there any plans to eventually deprecate joinmarket in favour of joinmarket-clientserver? maintaining two implementations seems like a waste of resources 09:46 < waxwing> yes we talked about it. but atm not much is being done on either of them, so there isn't so much resource-duplication :) 09:47 < undeath> are there any missing features in -cs that have to be implemented before jm can be deprecated? 09:51 < waxwing> good question, there were some but some were added. there's patientsendpayment; not many people seem to have used it (although ofc i don't know for sure) 10:20 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 10:24 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:30 < undeath> what are the use cases for patientsendpayment? since you can't control the output value very well it seems to be quite niche 10:33 < waxwing> the idea is twofold i guess; (1) you want to do it soon-ish, but not urgently, and you'd rather receive than pay, and (2) by mixing roles it makes the privacy effect better 10:34 < waxwing> a lot of the analysis on joinmarket works by saying "oh this was the taker because fees and because of pattern of outputs" 10:34 < undeath> I see 10:35 < undeath> but wouldn't you simply run a normal maker in that case and eventually withdraw? 10:39 < waxwing> well goes to specified outputs 10:39 < waxwing> and has a "if still not done after X time switch to taker" clause 10:39 < waxwing> btw feel free to re-implement it in jm-cs, it's a good exercise for you undeath :) 10:39 < waxwing> there's an open issue 10:40 < waxwing> belcher_ would do a better job than me of explaining the nuances of it, since he came up with it and coded it, but i believe the above ^ is the gist 10:46 < undeath> thanks for the explanation :) 11:20 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 11:25 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:31 -!- MaxSan [~user@213.152.162.84] has joined #joinmarket 11:57 -!- MaxSan [~user@213.152.162.84] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:58 -!- MaxSan [~user@213.152.162.84] has joined #joinmarket 12:21 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 12:28 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:24 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 13:28 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:14 -!- undeath [~undeath@unaffiliated/undeath] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 14:24 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 14:29 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:13 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 15:25 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 15:30 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:10 -!- Giszmo [~leo@190.8.79.154] has joined #joinmarket 16:26 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 16:30 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:26 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 17:31 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:48 -!- Giszmo [~leo@190.8.79.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:22 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 18:48 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 19:13 -!- oakpacific_ [~proslogio@45.116.80.169] has joined #joinmarket 19:28 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 19:32 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11 -!- oakpacific_ [~proslogio@45.116.80.169] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29 -!- coins123 [~coins123@c-208-25.net-185.wadsl.it] has joined #joinmarket 20:29 -!- coins123 [~coins123@c-208-25.net-185.wadsl.it] has quit [Changing host] 20:29 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 20:33 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:56 -!- belcher_ [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:58 -!- belcher_ [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 21:50 -!- Pilate [~pilate@infoforcefeed/pilate] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:03 -!- Pilate [~pilate@pilate.io] has joined #joinmarket 22:04 -!- Pilate is now known as Guest25500 22:30 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 22:35 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:58 -!- Guest25500 [~pilate@pilate.io] has quit [Changing host] 22:58 -!- Guest25500 [~pilate@infoforcefeed/pilate] has joined #joinmarket 22:58 -!- Guest25500 is now known as Pilate 23:03 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 23:24 -!- coins123 [~coins123@c-208-25.net-185.wadsl.it] has joined #joinmarket 23:24 -!- coins123 [~coins123@c-208-25.net-185.wadsl.it] has quit [Changing host] 23:24 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has joined #joinmarket 23:27 -!- coins123 [~coins123@unaffiliated/coins123] has quit [Client Quit] 23:52 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro]