--- Day changed Fri Oct 27 2017 00:01 < waxwing> blog post about non-interactive coinjoin idea we were chatting about above: https://joinmarket.me/blog/blog/snicker 00:03 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 02:23 < arubi> interesting comments re. the encrypted messages repository. I like the idea of using hashcash to rate limit stuff, really for both the repository and all recipients. 02:24 < arubi> the pow could also be tweaked by some repositories \ channels to require higher or lower target, so maybe you could subscribe to a higher target channel on your desktop which you check once a day or so, and a lower target channel on your phone that you have with you. 02:24 < arubi> takers would just tweak their own pow target, so a lower target would probably reach more people over quicker 02:50 < waxwing> yes. it does seem like maybe one of the biggest problems with the idea; the junk encrypted mail issue. 02:51 < waxwing> stratified targets is interesting, yes. 02:51 < waxwing> need an asic resistant pow ;) well it should be gpu resistant too. 03:23 -!- MaxSan [~user@213.152.162.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:39 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:42 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 04:21 -!- gijensen [~gijensen@5.9.173.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:21 -!- gijensen [~gijensen@5.9.173.182] has joined #joinmarket 04:57 -!- proslogion [~proslogio@104.236.136.185] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:47 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:55 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:10 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 07:19 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 07:45 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-224-130-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:02 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has joined #joinmarket 08:42 < waxwing> trying to set up blocksci now, installation was easy, parsing my node's blockchain, taken about 2 or 3 hours so far and halfway through: https://github.com/citp/blocksci 08:43 < waxwing> once set up i think it should be "easy" to get coinjoin txs according to docs here: https://citp.github.io/BlockSci/chain/blockchain.html 08:45 < waxwing> the "Transaction" object also has "is_coinjoin" and "is_definite_coinjoin" methods. i question the latter naming ;) 08:51 -!- undeath [~undeath@unaffiliated/undeath] has joined #joinmarket 09:22 < arubi> hehe. what's the size of the database that it builds? 09:27 < waxwing> i'm guessing at least 30GB. probably a fair bit bigger, it slowed down (looks like the % is of blocks not processing) 09:27 -!- Giszmo [~leo@190.8.79.154] has joined #joinmarket 09:28 < arubi> oh 30gb isn't bad at all. pretty sure I have space for something like that 09:28 < waxwing> i was musing about it while installing (they don't mention in the docs). if i were doing it i think i might just ditch signatures. it may be possible to have a a genuinely compact structure if you assumed the user continued to have access to Bitcoin's own blocks database. 09:29 < waxwing> yeah i misjudged. see: 17G ./chain 09:29 < waxwing> 6,2G ./parser/utxoDB 09:29 < waxwing> 9,5G ./parser 09:29 < waxwing> 11G ./scripts 09:29 < waxwing> and only 51% done (it was like 47 an hour ago..) 09:29 < arubi> oh :) 09:29 < waxwing> it makes sense to build something big for performance though. 09:30 < waxwing> also i'm reading the github issues and now i see the issue to support segwit is still open labelled 'bug'. oops... 09:30 < arubi> oh sure, but along with the mainnet chain it gets very big 09:30 -!- zxccxz_ [4f7c1260@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.124.18.96] has joined #joinmarket 09:31 < waxwing> right. how big is txindex? another 20 or 30 GB or something? never tried it. 09:31 -!- zxccxz [5db781f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.183.129.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:32 < undeath> what are you talking about? 09:32 < arubi> oh you also have to run the daemon with the older block serializer, seems like it segfaults on segwit blocks. 13gb in my index dir 09:33 < arubi> sorry, first message re. "makes sense to build.." 09:33 < arubi> undeath, ah sorry again, your both handles are same length and color on my client :( 09:34 < arubi> talking about blocksci's database. seems like if you want to run blocksci, you need to turn off segwit serializer 09:34 < undeath> ah, thanks 11:26 -!- quitobro_ [~quitobro@pool-108-41-0-186.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #joinmarket 11:27 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:27 -!- quitobro_ is now known as quitobro 11:35 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@pool-108-41-0-186.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 11:40 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@pool-108-41-0-186.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #joinmarket 11:45 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@pool-108-41-0-186.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:57 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 12:05 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Quit: (┛◉Д◉)┛┻━┻] 13:17 -!- Giszmo [~leo@190.8.79.154] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:21 -!- Giszmo [~leo@190.8.79.154] has joined #joinmarket 13:26 -!- Giszmo [~leo@190.8.79.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:46 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-52-226-107-190.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 14:02 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 14:04 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 14:16 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 15:25 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-52-226-107-190.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:41 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-160-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 15:44 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-160-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44 -!- undeath [~undeath@unaffiliated/undeath] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 15:45 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 16:01 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-43-226-107-190.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 16:33 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-43-226-107-190.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:49 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 19:40 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:49 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@2603:3024:1d05:5400:d42c:c035:f5c2:a86b] has joined #joinmarket 19:54 < delinquentme> ok so quick few questions on the tumbler. 19:55 < delinquentme> now that Im getting the expected output from running the script !! :P 19:55 < delinquentme> 'makercountrange': (6, 1) 19:55 < delinquentme> Estimated miner/tx fee for each cj participant: 50617 19:55 < delinquentme> ^ thats in satoshi right? 19:59 < delinquentme> makercountrange is by default restricted to a max of 7 so ... 50617sat ~=$3usd * number of makers ~= $27usd 20:03 < delinquentme> belcher_, or waxwing if you guys know ^ 20:03 < delinquentme> creates 16 transactions in total 20:03 < delinquentme> waits in total for 16 blocks and 684.77 minutes 20:03 < delinquentme> estimated time taken 844.77 minutes or 14.08 hours 20:06 < delinquentme> or its possible that thats *per* coinjoin transaction... as the output doesn't really clarify whether a the maker is for a single coinjoin ... or for the entire run. 20:14 < delinquentme> or adlai 20:42 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@2603:3024:1d05:5400:d42c:c035:f5c2:a86b] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:54 -!- proslogion [~proslogio@104.236.136.185] has joined #joinmarket 21:57 < proslogion> waxwing i remember we used to talk about how to create an output which can only be spent by a signature matching a particular pattern, but was someone hampered by the sighash_single mess