--- Day changed Mon Nov 06 2017 00:40 -!- wumpus [~quassel@pdpc/supporter/professional/wumpus] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:55 -!- wumpus [~quassel@pdpc/supporter/professional/wumpus] has joined #joinmarket 00:55 < trotski2000> waxwing: i can do the short writeup on how i installed joinmarket on Mac 01:02 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:03 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has joined #joinmarket 01:51 -!- MaxSan [~user@213.152.162.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:53 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:53 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has joined #joinmarket 03:56 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 04:43 -!- quitobro_ [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 04:45 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:45 -!- quitobro_ is now known as quitobro 05:23 -!- iinaj [sid110431@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qfxifjkoptcyzgpy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:24 -!- iinaj [sid110431@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dizqkpxwqhmpyqyy] has joined #joinmarket 05:29 -!- quitobro_ [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 05:30 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:30 -!- quitobro_ is now known as quitobro 05:41 < waxwing> trotski2000, great thanks :) 06:00 -!- quitobro_ [~quitobro@pool-108-41-0-186.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #joinmarket 06:02 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:02 -!- quitobro_ is now known as quitobro 07:12 -!- StopAndDecrypt is now known as nickname123 07:12 -!- nickname123 is now known as StopAndDecrypt 07:24 -!- quitobro_ [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 07:25 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@pool-108-41-0-186.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:25 -!- quitobro_ is now known as quitobro 07:32 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:28 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-186-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 09:34 < Sentineo> anyone seeing a lot of drops on coinjoin irc (pit)? 09:34 < Sentineo> I loose connection after 2 hours than it can never reconnect 09:37 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-186-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:52 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-192-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 09:57 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 10:27 -!- MaxSan [~user@185.156.175.51] has joined #joinmarket 10:28 -!- zxccxz [d4159750@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.21.151.80] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:51 -!- Lightsword [~Lightswor@107.170.253.193] has left #joinmarket [] 10:53 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-192-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:06 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-192-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 11:07 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 11:07 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined #joinmarket 11:11 < andytoshi> is joinmarket interested in doing multiparty mixes? or are 2-party coinjoins too fundamental to the maker/taker model 11:12 < andytoshi> tim and i are thinking about coinshuffle/valueshuffle integration but coinshuffle doesn't accomplish anything for 2-party mixes :) 11:21 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-192-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:57 < Sentineo> where do I sign? ;) 11:57 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 12:32 -!- Giszmo [~leo@190-20-60-46.baf.movistar.cl] has joined #joinmarket 12:33 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:40 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #joinmarket 12:44 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:45 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #joinmarket 13:03 -!- Giszmo [~leo@190-20-60-46.baf.movistar.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:22 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-13-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 14:17 -!- zxccxz [d4159750@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.21.151.80] has joined #joinmarket 14:34 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:32 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:33 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #joinmarket 16:01 -!- Rix [~rix@unaffiliated/rix] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:01 -!- Rix [~rix@bnc.vps.bg] has joined #joinmarket 16:02 -!- Rix is now known as Guest37291 16:03 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-13-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:31 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 17:12 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-167-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 17:18 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-167-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:19 < waxwing> andytoshi, joinmarket has always been 3+ party mixes? typical is 5-7 17:20 < waxwing> back in half hour or so 17:22 < andytoshi> waxwing: really? derp 17:24 < waxwing> ah yeah, just before i go, note also that tumbler.py means a much larger effective mixing group 17:24 < waxwing> darkwallet was 2 party iirc, maybe you mixed it with that. or because i was talking about that snicker idea, which was 2 party too 17:32 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-226-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 17:38 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-226-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-243-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 18:09 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-243-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:27 < adlai> waxwing: thank you for the tainter prototype (and your opening gambit!). i fall into the "what fork?" camp, especially since the worst that happens to yield generators is that they earn on both forks. but maybe we could mention on various communication channels (even a pit-topic-alert) that sending is not replay-protected by default, so senders/tumblers should split/taint ahead of time? 18:29 < adlai> "worst that happens" as in, as an immediate result. obviously the confusion is a nuisance if you want to sell one side early on, and find that your coins have moved unpredictably. making a "snapshot" of wallet-tool output is recommended in this case! 18:39 < waxwing> "snapshot", yeah, good idea, especially `python wallet-tool.py (--fast) walletname showutxos` 18:42 < waxwing> at the end of the day the only thing we can really do is set an alert. so just a question of what, and people can always ignore it (doubtless some will). 18:59 < adlai> "your concern is noted, and stupid" - from the perpetually-puzzling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaGgpGLxLQw (trigger warning: evolution, politics, satire) 19:00 * adlai is not calling the concern stupid, the obstinacy is probably more his own, in insisting that "the only winning move is not to play" is the right way to ignore forks... 19:01 < adlai> kanzure: you may like that youtube if you haven't encountered it yet 19:07 < kanzure> hm. 19:08 < kanzure> adlai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwmeH6Rnj2E 19:10 < adlai> that seems to have enough material to fill a semester of "physics for poets" or whatever they call those these days 19:11 < kanzure> i think they call that "watching carl sagan" 19:11 < waxwing> 1:25 :) 19:11 < waxwing> hearing that music just makes me sad that the end of interstellar was so rubbish 19:12 < kanzure> you can just end the movie early and it's okay 19:14 < adlai> kip thorne should probably get a new category of ignobel for his involvement 19:14 < kanzure> because their words had forked no lightning 19:15 -!- belcher_ [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:16 < waxwing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfHzzy6T9to 19:16 -!- belcher_ [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 19:17 < kanzure> ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIFm8Jtk-B0 ) 19:17 < kanzure> anyway, remember to read your longevity literature, kids: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/longevity/ 20:47 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 22:21 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 22:31 -!- quitobro_ [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 22:34 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:34 -!- quitobro_ is now known as quitobro 22:51 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 23:06 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:07 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #joinmarket 23:23 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket