--- Day changed Fri Apr 27 2018
01:08 < waxwing> belcher_, yes it was finished, thanks
01:08 < waxwing> luke-jr, huh that's weird. i can't remember seeing that one.
01:21 < waxwing> belcher_, segwit = false is only for loading and spending from a non-segwit wallet there. you can't run a bot in non-segwit mode. i can't remember the details now, but i remember that's what i did.
01:22 < waxwing> but of course, that could be changed. so, yeah, that would be a requirement probably.
01:44 < waxwing> luke-jr, off out for a bit, but if you could write down exactly what you're doing and what's not working that'd be great? joinmarket-cs? using command line? wallet-tool? new wallet or old? stuff like that. maybe killing and restarting wallet-tool is worth a try, depending.
01:45 < waxwing> belcher_, about docs, yeah, note there are fairly detailed docs in docs/ in joinmarket-cs, for now we should add a large redirect message to readme of main repo i guess.
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02:19 < luke-jr> waxwing: old wallet, just trying to figure out my balance really
02:20 < luke-jr> $ python2.7 wallet-tool.py wallet.json display
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02:50 < waxwing> hmm so it looks like you're using blockr or blockchain.info interface. the former is defunct completely, and the latter is very unlikely to work :)
02:51 < waxwing> (i say this because "downloading wallet history" only appears in the non-segwit codebase, and only for those interfaces
02:51 < waxwing> ), luke-jr ^
02:52 < waxwing> so change the setting of blockchain_source in the joinmarket.cfg file. it defaulted to blockr in the old days, that really should have been changed since blockr died :)
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02:56 < waxwing> for anyone interested in fixing it up, https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/blob/8c2b6d83dfddb85451d185e64f0fe4df62d5c54e/joinmarket/configure.py#L87
02:57 < waxwing> btw i'll be off to berlin shortly, if anyone's there, say hi :)
02:57 < luke-jr> bc.i seems to have worked
02:57 < luke-jr> thx waxwing
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02:58 < waxwing> ok if it's just for sync i *guess* that's ok, but yuck, it was barely even tested :( if you just want to move coins out i guess it serves to tell you your balance.
03:03 < waxwing> fwiw i'm meaningfully happier with the electrum server based interface in the new codebase, not claiming it's perfect at all, but it seems robust enough for basic operations - although i'd never recommend running a Maker side bot with it, bad privacy ofc but also would probably be too flaky
03:03 < waxwing> it syncs a ton faster
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09:50 < belcher> that guy organizing the meetup ill be speaking at liked this tweet https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/989895264814092288
09:51 < belcher> looks like ill be doing my talk, getting the recording, answer questions and not talking about bitcoin politics :p
09:59 < arubi> first reply: " Does Segwit break the longest chain of “digital signatures” by replacing them with witness data, in your opinion?"   I can't even
10:03 < belcher> the important thing is to remember that the pro-decentralization won and their side is either forced out onto an altcoin or compelled by the network effect to use a decentralized bitcoin
10:06 < arubi> unfortunately it's hard to communicate something like that to an outsider
10:12 < belcher> it might not even matter, outsiders could just use bitcoin without even knowing about the politics
10:12 < belcher> though if they want to learn the history, it would be useful to have some book or other writing
10:19 < arubi> one day I'm gonna quit my day job and write an easy to understand "soft fork 101" explainer :)
10:27 < belcher> tbh i think theres many of them around, the hard part is getting people to read them
10:30 < arubi> oh sure, you can't force someone to learn if they don't want to, but at least with an easy explainer it won't be "brilliant soft fork that solves malleability using standard bitcoin script vs. 'moar blocksize & longest chain of signatures'"
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