--- Day changed Tue May 01 2018 01:07 -!- player1 [~player1@136.0.7.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:31 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 03:10 -!- player1 [~player1@ip5b40631b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #joinmarket 04:00 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:11 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #joinmarket 04:34 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 05:28 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@pool-108-41-0-186.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #joinmarket 05:30 -!- quitobro_ [quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 05:33 -!- quitobro [~quitobro@pool-108-41-0-186.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:33 -!- quitobro_ is now known as quitobro 06:17 < waxwing> huh, fun topic here yesterday, here's yet another one to add to the list of anecdotes of banking hell: https://twitter.com/winnieokelley/status/990962250512027648 06:36 -!- Giszmo [~leo@190.208.29.202] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:41 -!- quitobro [quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 08:33 -!- Xeha [~Xeha@unaffiliated/k1773r] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:35 -!- Xeha [~Xeha@unaffiliated/k1773r] has joined #joinmarket 08:39 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-37-38-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 09:59 -!- quitobro [quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #joinmarket 11:27 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-37-38-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:41 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has joined #joinmarket 11:49 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-68-237-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #joinmarket 11:52 -!- madacol1 [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has joined #joinmarket 11:54 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:54 -!- madacol1 is now known as madacol 11:59 -!- madacool [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has joined #joinmarket 12:01 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:01 -!- madacool is now known as madacol 12:09 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:15 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:15 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has joined #joinmarket 12:19 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:27 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 12:30 -!- viasil [~viasil@185.212.171.215] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:35 -!- viasil [~viasil@185.212.171.215] has joined #joinmarket 12:40 < waxwing> oh btw i got a chance to have a chat with the guy who's implementing lightning on a branch in electrum while in berlin. very interesting. 12:41 < waxwing> there was an amusing moment in his talk when i asked 'oh, how did you implement the noise transport layer stuff' and he said 'oh thomas found some random code on github someone had done' and i said 'oh, that was me :)' 12:42 < waxwing> he's ysangkok on irc btw. he had some thoughts about a reactive design based on the idea that lightning doesn't need to be interested in the mempool .. well, not sure i understood/remember all the stuff he was saying tbh. 12:50 < belcher> yeah in theory you should be able to easily run LN with blocksonly 12:51 < belcher> whats the point of looking at the mempool except to print a message "the other guy tried to close with an invalid state.. will wait for one confirm and then we'll make him rekt" 12:56 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-68-237-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:00 < waxwing> right, i got it at that level, or i thought i did anyway. there was other interesting tech stuff but i've kind of forgot (especially the stuff from later in the evening as you can imagine). but yeah you can look at his code on the branch at spesmilo/electrum. it's in a pretty early state, as i understand only 1 hop implemented, or something. 13:17 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-37-38-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #joinmarket 14:27 < player1> what’s the most paranoid way of creating a 24word seed with diceware? I haven’t had a chance to look through the code yet but iancoleman’s tool seems popular https://github.com/iancoleman/bip39 14:27 < belcher> dont use any javascript site 14:27 < belcher> javascript is just a bad language for cryptography 14:28 < belcher> what you could do is get the source of electrum and edit the random number generation to be your own thing that you input 14:28 < belcher> generate that random number by flipping 256 coins; heads = 1, tails = 0 14:29 < player1> ok 14:31 < player1> how many bits of entropy would it need to be sufficiently paranoid do you think? 14:33 < player1> ah this might be useful https://github.com/trezor/python-mnemonic 14:33 < belcher> 256 14:34 < player1> I managed to intall JM on Ubuntu Mate on the Pi 3 B+ 14:34 < player1> I haven’t tried a join yet just generated a wallet and sync’d it to bitcoind 15:19 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has joined #joinmarket 15:21 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:34 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has joined #joinmarket 15:37 -!- player1_ [~player1@185.156.174.171] has joined #joinmarket 15:38 -!- player1 [~player1@ip5b40631b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:38 -!- player1_ is now known as player1 15:43 -!- player1 [~player1@185.156.174.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:50 -!- player1 [~player1@185.96.210.192] has joined #joinmarket 15:57 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:59 -!- player1 [~player1@185.96.210.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:02 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has joined #joinmarket 16:07 -!- player1 [~player1@ip5b40631b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #joinmarket 16:11 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:14 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:22 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has joined #joinmarket 16:29 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has joined #joinmarket 16:34 -!- player1_ [~player1@185.181.100.203] has joined #joinmarket 16:34 -!- player1 [~player1@ip5b40631b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:34 -!- player1_ is now known as player1 16:36 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:14 -!- player1 [~player1@185.181.100.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:15 -!- player1 [~player1@ip5b40631b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #joinmarket 17:27 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:42 -!- player1 [~player1@ip5b40631b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:09 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has joined #joinmarket 18:54 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:38 -!- raedah [~x@71.19.252.27] has joined #joinmarket 19:55 -!- madacol [~Thunderbi@181.56.216.44] has joined #joinmarket 20:59 -!- quitobro [quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 21:00 -!- AgoraRelay [~jmrelayfn@p5DE4A4D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:14 -!- AgoraRelay [~jmrelayfn@p5DE4A334.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 22:40 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:46 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #joinmarket 23:10 -!- windsok [~windsok@unaffiliated/windsok] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12 -!- windsok [~windsok@rarepepe.cash] has joined #joinmarket 23:12 -!- windsok [~windsok@rarepepe.cash] has quit [Changing host] 23:12 -!- windsok [~windsok@unaffiliated/windsok] has joined #joinmarket 23:58 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket