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07:19 < belcher> reddit today: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8krhuw/are_there_any_p2p_exchanges_that_dont_require_id/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8kpboh/is_it_really_time_to_boycott_or_outright_mass/
08:01 < arubi> interesting re. cash by mail.  never had a chance to try something like that (also didn't purchase coins recently by any method really), but I can say that I'm pretty sure that banks around here are starting to investigate bitcoin users.  I recently got a letter from my bank telling me that they want to "get to know me better" and that I should come in and give them details about myself.  they didn't write what exactly they want to know, but 
08:01 < arubi> I'm guessing that they looked through their DB and realized that I sent money to a local exchange once.  that was years ago, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's what it's about.  I basically ignored the letter and am waiting for them to make another move :)
08:02 < arubi> also btw belcher I watched the london video, thanks for the mention.  I appreciate it :)
08:03 < belcher> :)     
08:17 < waxwing> "get to know you better". sheesh. and yet it doesn't surprise me one bit.
08:20 < waxwing> (although tbh "sent once to a local exchange years ago" makes it seem a little unlikely.)
08:22 < belcher> recently i tried to send money to bitstamp from a uk bank and the error message was "invalid bank account number"
08:22 < arubi> I hope you're right.  I'm sure that eventually they'll begin calling and then I'll have to go there, then I won't know what to say if they asked about btc
08:23 < belcher> how would "i think it will go up in price" sound? investing isnt against the law lol
08:24 < arubi> haha, yea given how many years ago that wire took place I think they can at least guess that I had the right idea about that :)
08:24 < arubi> too bad I didn't go all in, but oh well
08:24 < waxwing> unfortunately not a matter of law; they don't like it, want to derisk, they block you, don't have to offer any reason.
08:25 < arubi> that would be inconvenient.  they do let you withdraw your balance though right?  would be pretty scary if they didn't
08:25 < belcher> yeah they do
08:25 < belcher> in these situations iv always heard they send you a bankers draft or something like that
08:27 < belcher> cash is the best way really, too bad its not practical for huge amounts
08:27 < arubi> cool.  at least that's covered
08:27 < waxwing> money in a bank isn't very safe really. it's hugely safe from theft, but the censorship risk seems to get worse and worse year by year. not just btc, all sorts of things.
08:28 < waxwing> even in very trivial minor ways; because card fraud is getting worse and worse, their automated blocks can crop up at the drop of a hat.
08:29 < arubi> that's for sure, but still it's hard to manage otherwise unfortunately
08:30 < arubi> not that I use the card too often, but I see what you're saying
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09:31 < waxwing> comments still v. much welcome on this: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/136#issuecomment-389165946
09:31 < waxwing> although i'm doing other stuff i'm happy to get back and do that rather difficult job if and when people want it.
09:34 < belcher> i agree with that plan but dont think i know enough about github to help, but let me know if you need anything i can help with
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09:35 < belcher> last time i thought about it i think i remember there was something i didnt know how to do
09:35 < belcher> (cached knowledge)
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