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09:25 < qubenix> why is the default sendpayment depth 0? shouldn't it use the highest depth with sufficient funds since those are more likely to be mixed more?
09:47 < technonerd> why not just randomly pick the depth
09:47 < technonerd> yet again 90% of my coins get stuck in depth 4
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10:17 < waxwing> technonerd, a tendency to concentrate in one mixdepth is somewhat desirable when running a yg (are you?) because you can offer larger sizes
10:18 < waxwing> qubenix, higher depths are not really 'higher'; think of it as 5 pockets, there's no intrinsic ordering, even if we choose to pretend there is when doing tumbler
10:18 < waxwing> but you probably have a good point about sendpayment though, the interesting question is what would be the right default choosing there.
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10:35 < waxwing> for now, certainly you can just use -m whenever you do sendpayment, i always do
10:36 < technonerd> I am running yg 
10:37 < waxwing> technonerd, ah are you thinking that if it's in mixdepth 4 it can't go further/transact?
10:37 < waxwing> it's not like that, see above, mixdepths are always modulo maxmixdepth, so to spea
10:37 < waxwing> k     
10:38 < waxwing> so like, if you do a tx coming out of mixdepth 4, the destination is in mixdepth 0
10:38 < technonerd> I see less when there's a bunch in 4 
10:38 < waxwing> although it wouldn't have to; that's just easier. and a tx can come out of any.
10:38 < technonerd> Then a 4 to 0 and I get a lot of joins from 0to1 
10:39 < waxwing> ok. your counterparty has no idea what mixdepth you're using (and the code doesn't care either)
11:18 < qubenix> thx for the answer waxwing. i thought about it after using -m 4 a few times from my yg wallet where i periodically add funds to depth 0.
12:26 < undeath> ,     
12:26 < undeath> yg seems to favour the first mixdepth with enough funds
12:27 < undeath> I observed the same, technonerd 
13:12 < waxwing> 'first mixdepth with enough funds'; oh, well, that's different, perhaps. of course, yg isn't one thing, there are 2 provided and people can also quite easily write alternatives (there's only like 3/4 functions to override, right)
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21:55 < kanzure> hi what are the rules about logging in here