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08:11 < waxwing> is there an anti-sybil approach based on proof-of-join? the crude implication is rather awful: you prove ownership of an output in a join thus somewhat deanonymising it. but a possible countermeasure that's fairly easy: provide a ring signature over say 20 joinmarket outputs.
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08:12 < waxwing> O(n) ring sigs are easy; and given how much research's gone into this recently, one could probably do better.
08:13 < waxwing> oh, hmm, "proof of join" is a bit problematic ... can fake joins. but it does cost. hmm, interesting.
08:14 < waxwing> some more hall of mirrors stuff here, but it feels like a good direction to look in.
08:14 < waxwing> rather than the impenetrable/crazy "prove that i don't own a single utxo that's the same as anyone else around here, honest guv!"
08:17 < waxwing> another drawback there, i think, is that proving such a property even with the anon set feature of a ring sig, requires ability to check any tx on the chain, so basically something like -txindex
10:14 < waxwing> oh connection probs again, did people see 6 messages from me here today (first starting "is there an anti-sybil...")?
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13:59 < qubenix> yes, waxwing, i see all 7 msgs including the one asking about the other 6.
13:59 < waxwing> qubenix, thx
13:59 < qubenix> 5 hours later :)
14:04 < qubenix> let me know what you all think about my wip guide for using jm wallet in an offline vm with qubes & whonix: https://gist.github.com/qubenix/70987c2ed0ed57e9e669e1da8b4fcb79
14:07 < waxwing> that seems rather impressive :) i don't think i can even run qubes on any of my machines though :( at least for now.
14:09 < qubenix> got a thinkpad? that usually works.
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14:13 < undeath> qubenix: for your goal of keeping as much software off the jm-wallet vm, wouldn't it make more sense to run the jmdaemon on the jm-bitcoind vm and only run jmclient on the jm-wallet vm?
14:15 < qubenix> that's what's happening, undeath. joinmarketd and bitcoind run together in the internet connected vm.
14:16 < undeath> ah, okay
14:17 < undeath> your joinmarket.cfg says "daemon_host = localhost", how does that work?
14:18 < undeath> ah, I see, socat
14:18 < qubenix> right and qubes' qrexec
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