--- Day changed Mon Mar 25 2019 00:03 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #joinmarket 02:47 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has joined #joinmarket 09:00 < waxwing> so i got virtualbox up and running again (was having a problem on 1804 before), and just to report install seems to work from scratch ok. didn't get any coincurve problem. 09:01 < waxwing> belcher, yeah that's reasonable. i'm not sure i can put my finger on what's bothering me about the arguments around that issue. i was familiar with jevons para before bitcoin and sure, it applies here. i'm thinking about the problem of .. semantics being hidden? can't express it simply. 09:06 < belcher> it is a weird argument i agree, at first sight and intuitively it seems wrong 09:07 < belcher> one way iv heard it described is when you create a more efficient steam engine then the demand curve becomes more steep because people are more willing to pay a higher price for each kg of coal.. because that kg gives them more work output than before 09:07 < belcher> err sorry less steep 09:08 < belcher> wait, idk about the shape... its best expressed that each kg of coal gives the buyer more useful work so they're ready to pay more for it.. so the price of coal can go up higher before people stop buying 09:19 < waxwing> i don't think jevons is particularly unintuitive, although it's certainly not something that you can just elementarily prove as 'fact'. anyway like i say i suspect there's something else going on with bitcoin. 09:20 < waxwing> so back to JM :) seem to be able to go from "0 to 1" on a fresh ubuntu VM with no problems. including GUI. belcher at some point shortly we should discuss what we'll demo in Malta. Maybe next week sometime. Have you been asked to talk about EPS at all? 09:22 < belcher> i think im demoing joinmarket or payjoin things 09:22 < belcher> just looking back at the message from feburary 09:22 < belcher> iv had no other communication about it since then 09:23 < belcher> we could discuss whenever, later today even 09:43 < Sentineo> ah great, I will listen to that podcast tomorrow when travelling 12:10 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #joinmarket 14:16 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:17 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has joined #joinmarket 15:32 -!- Cory [Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:38 -!- Cory [Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined #joinmarket 15:45 -!- devachandra [~devachand@vmi179228.contaboserver.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:47 -!- devachandra [~devachand@vmi179228.contaboserver.net] has joined #joinmarket 16:29 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.3] 17:09 -!- M1 [~Michail@michail.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:12 -!- M1 [~Michail@michail.com] has joined #joinmarket 18:46 -!- AgoraRelay [~jmrelayfn@p5DE4AB57.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:00 -!- AgoraRelay [~jmrelayfn@p5DE4AB3F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 22:34 -!- Comstock_ [Comstock@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/comstock] has joined #joinmarket 22:34 -!- Comstock [Comstock@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/comstock] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:34 -!- Comstock_ [Comstock@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/comstock] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35 -!- Comstock_ [Comstock@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/comstock] has joined #joinmarket