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06:51 < waxwing> belcher_, as our resident bitcoin privacy case-study documenter, i wonder if you remember or saw this one: https://twitter.com/waxwing__/status/1007607064036827137
06:51 < waxwing> it's probably suboptimal because as i noted there, the detail was scant. but apparently address reuse was a key factor in the case.
06:52 < waxwing> or not, i actually would have to go back and trawl through it more, but i just remember it was an interesting case.
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07:11 < rob4488> Just a short question for the ones who have been here for a longer time: when putting up about 10..20 btc as a maker, how much can one expect in return on average? I have no clue how much demand there even is for mixing, so any raw idea would already help I guess…
07:26 < technonerd> I think I'm averaging. .05 a year 
07:27 < waxwing> i think over time we've trended to lower prices, best to see yieldgen as a pot-sweetener for your own slow mixing, i think. perhaps not at large sizes. also though, recently (last few weeks) activity seems to have been dropping quite a bit.
07:27 < waxwing> had times in the past (incl last year) where it was easy to see tens of txs per day, atm not seeing that at all. and when fees spike it also tends to kill off activity.
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07:44 < rob4488> ouch, that's little … considering that I'd first have to run my kyc coins through a casino wallet or so, then from there to my JM hot wallet, it'd probably cost me more in fees than returns in 1 yr. :)
09:18 < waxwing> nobody can give a definitive answer. i don't know any reason you'd have to go through a 'casino wallet', but i'll leave that one with you :)
11:25 < qubenix> waxwing: about that dnm vendor (oxymonster) that you mentioned, he was a horrible at all opsec not just regarding bitcoin, and ofc we know lbc is willing to give up info.
11:27 < waxwing> yeah. i forget the details, but that sounds right.
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14:58 < rob4488> my current wallet is basically kyc'd .. I have to break the connection somehow / plausible deniability
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