--- Day changed Tue Oct 15 2019 00:09 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:16 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has joined #joinmarket 00:27 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has quit [Quit: deafboy] 00:30 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has joined #joinmarket 00:59 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has quit [Quit: deafboy] 00:59 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has joined #joinmarket 01:26 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 01:29 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:36 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 01:41 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:48 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 03:56 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:34 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 04:51 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:08 -!- Giszmo [~leo@122-58-98-6-adsl.sparkbb.co.nz] has joined #joinmarket 05:14 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 05:16 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:21 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 05:29 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:32 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 06:06 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:10 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 06:36 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:59 -!- MaxSan [~four@185.156.174.155] has joined #joinmarket 09:21 -!- kristapsk_ is now known as kristapsk 09:21 -!- Malachi34Stokes [~Malachi34@ns334669.ip-5-196-64.eu] has joined #joinmarket 09:49 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has joined #joinmarket 09:56 -!- Malachi34Stokes [~Malachi34@ns334669.ip-5-196-64.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:08 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@pool-71-161-100-47.cncdnh.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #joinmarket 10:12 -!- takamatsu [~takamatsu@unaffiliated/takamatsu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:55 < raedah> What was the resolution for the double spend dos attacks against jm from some time back? I remember there were some attempts at utxo blacklisting. I dont see any sign of those attacks occuring anymore. Were the effectively blocked or did they just let up? 12:55 < waxwing_> raedah, hi, they weren't really double spend attacks; they were what we called 'snooping' attacks, based on the idea that if you kept querying makers you could figure out which joins they participated in. 12:56 < waxwing_> the solution we have is partial, but essentially the Taker (who queries) has to make a commitment to utxos they own to make the query, then open the commitment if they go through with the transaction. 12:57 < waxwing_> it stops people making hundreds of queries per hour or whatever, or more precisely it stops them getting utxo info before having to consume their own resources. 12:58 < waxwing_> AlexCato just to mention, been working on this stuff quite intensely as you notice and now at a point where i'm able to do stuff on mainnet OK; feel free to test bits and pieces yourself. i will be slowing down somewhat due to berlin from tomorrow afternoon. 12:58 < waxwing_> same ^ goes for anyone else testing #359 13:00 < raedah> 359 on the joinmarket-clientserver repo? 13:06 < raedah> yes, im aware of the snooping attacks, but also recall other double spends on the tx broadcast race to the mempools which had occured in the past. 14:25 < waxwing_> double spends (as in conflicts in the mempool) can happen without an attack and shouldn't in principle be a problem for the system raedah 14:30 < raedah> if a participant is joining as many transactions as they can, and creating conflicts in the mempool with the group tranasction as much as they can, it would block group transactions from succeeding waxwing_ 14:42 < raedah> what does it mean to 'make a commitment', is this onchain? 15:11 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] it's off-chain, raedah, but publicized by makers to blacklist takers which try to re-use the same commitments multiple times. More info: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket/wiki/Sourcing-commitments-for-joins 15:13 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] waxwing: thanks, i've seen the 359 updates. Wanted to just "gut pull" and run it again, yg-privacyenhanced.py isnt working any more (though I believe this might be a pull/merge error on my part and not an actual error). Will investigate more the next days 15:45 < waxwing_> AlexCato wondering what you mean by 'isn't working'? crash, or some other problem? 15:45 < waxwing_> i'll try running overnight anyway, thanks for letting me know 15:46 < waxwing_> tried a couple of taker side transactions ok (and absurd amounts of regtest testing of course :) ) 17:15 -!- AgoraRelay [~jmrelayfn@p5DE4A546.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:26 -!- AgoraRelay [~jmrelayfn@p5DE4A669.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 20:34 -!- azizLIGHT [~azizLIGHT@unaffiliated/azizlight] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:13 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato1] waxwing: i am getting a fatal error right on launch, so if you dont see an error then, it's definitely a merge error. Will fix that pull messup later today and also run the newest 359 then