--- Log opened Sat Feb 01 00:00:26 2020
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04:47 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] gingott] dave_uy i read that too. it was something like "a taker would favor a maker that they had done a transaction with previously". i have been too busy/lazy to find it. <-- this would be new to me. If you find that in the docs somewhere, please tell. Because that needs to be corrected then
04:48 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] but as far as i know, this *never* was coded into JM, ever. So I'm curious where this is from
04:51 < belcher> it was never coded into JM but somewhere in some old doc is written that it /might be coded in future/
04:51 < belcher> as a way to convince yieldgenerators to only run on fast connections with good uptime
05:03 < waxwing> there is such an effect; if you fail to complete negotiation you can be added to the taker's "ignored_makers" list (depending on various details). but this ofc does not survive across restarts, today.
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09:07 < coconutanna> i figured out my previous problem with the tumbler, to a degree at least. i have to edit the schedule by hand because the generated schedules don't make sense anymore. they try to tumble from depth e.g. 3 to 7, 8, 9. by changing that to 3, 4, 5, 6 i got a few successful tumbles out of it. yay!
09:08 < coconutanna> but then there were a bunch of timeouts and now i'm stuck with utxos that "have been used too many times". i must have angered the joinmarket gods somehow.
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12:40 < belcher> from a pdf on chainalysis's website:
12:40 < belcher> We suggest that exchanges treat large deposits -- or high volumes of small deposits in a short amount of time -- from mixers or CoinJoin wallets with increased suspicion. While there are legitimate uses for mixers, the data makes it clear that they're increasingly being utilized by hackers to obfuscate the path of stolen funds prior to cashing out. Exchanges can likely stop some of these cashouts and help law enforcement claw back s
12:40 < belcher> tolen funds by halting suspicious transactions from mixers. Binance (https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-returns-frozen-btc-after-user-promises-not-to-use-coinjoin) has already begun doing this, and we think their model could be a useful example for other exchanges to follow.
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13:29 < totallynotsatosh> Anyone know what's up with the order book? 
13:30 < totallynotsatosh> https://joinmarket.me/ob/ list only 12 counterparties
13:31 < totallynotsatosh> a few mins ago 0 orders
13:31 < totallynotsatosh> 70+ yesterday
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13:45 < belcher> totallynotsatosh i suspect the joinmarket.me site has gone wrong somewhere, because im in the IRC channels and the number of nicks joined is the same
13:46 < belcher> you can run the same thing on your own computer, it is the ob-watcher.py (orderbook watcher) script
13:46 < belcher> joinmarket.me/ob is much easier but sometimes its wrong, its weird iv never figured out why (not investigated much though)
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14:05 < waxwing> should be fixed now i see 95, pls check
14:06 < waxwing> cgan has been an issue with cleartext connection, and i don't have tor running on the vps
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14:32 < waxwing> I'm getting "Your nickname is in use" error when starting up locally (connecting to both hidden services)
14:32 < waxwing> looks like for darkscience specifically
14:32 < waxwing> can't make sense of it
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15:40 < dave_uy> I guess JoinMarket might have to team up with exchanges like Bisq for people who truly want privacy, if centralized exchanges are going to be so strict about CoinJoins.
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17:52 < kristapsk> dave_uy, not sure what's there to team up with, users of bisq or hodlhodl are free to use JoinMarket (I do)
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