--- Log opened Sat Feb 08 00:00:33 2020 03:06 -!- Tabitha56Kihn [~Tabitha56@ns334669.ip-5-196-64.eu] has joined #joinmarket 03:10 -!- jungly [~jungly@host243-191-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:27 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mazrdkhkfctjxwxs] has joined #joinmarket 04:26 < waxwing> did this get discussed anywhere? https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/509 04:27 < waxwing> it would be good to engage with a question like that, even if we don't have enough info to answer it 04:29 -!- Tabitha56Kihn [~Tabitha56@ns334669.ip-5-196-64.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:32 * adlai wonders what happened to that script that scrubs UTXOs, TXIDs, etc 04:33 -!- jungly [~jungly@host243-191-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #joinmarket 04:37 * adlai engages 509 w/link to scrub-log.py 04:39 * adlai blinks at 136 04:44 -!- jungly [~jungly@host243-191-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:52 < waxwing> scrub-log had errors in in that revealed addresses. that's a very awkward situation that's worse than useless (*much* worse, arguably) .. we can't put code out like that unless we know for sure it works, always. 04:53 < waxwing> well "can't" .. anyone can do anything but you know what i mean :) 04:53 < waxwing> adlai, ^ 04:55 < adlai> apparently i can no longer solicit P2PKH coinjoin liquidity, because 136 is dead, but i guess everyone else can do everything else 04:57 < adlai> without any further information, 509 is a mildly irritating claim... "see that hayfield where i worked yesterday? we didn't finish cleaning up after the afternoon food fight, and now there's a plastic straw in one of the bales" 04:59 < waxwing> hmm, isn't he saying 1500 is his setting, but we should only be applying a 20% delta, but he says he got 4000-5000 sometimes. i mean there's a good chance he miscalculated (e.g. didn't notice the coinjoin fees - seems likely). but in the unlikely case he is reporting an actual bug, it's a big deal. 05:00 < waxwing> given what he says is his absurd fee (which is a bit weird, that's not an appropriate setting), it seems especially likely that it was just coinjoin fees? 05:04 < adlai> it is actually impossible to tell exactly what the complaint is, because the transactions' sizes are not listed 05:24 * adlai regrettably admits that there has been an extreme dropoff of pkh coinjoins, although calling it 'dead' is ... aggravating! 05:45 < adlai> how bizarre: i see hundreds of PKH coinjoins in the past couple dozen thousand blocks, right up to the present day. granted, there are ~ten times as many segwit coinjoins, but still... "reports of death have been greatly exaggerated"? 06:16 < adlai> ... including garbage like d5f746c6394a92139fbb77d19c9ede7bcfac85d3f8a03e6f5445007b54a69157 ! 06:17 < adlai> (tx appears to have zero-value outputs, at least on https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/d5f746c6394a92139fbb77d19c9ede7bcfac85d3f8a03e6f5445007b54a69157 ) 06:26 < qubenix> how can that tx have 0 value outputs? i don't think i've ever seen that. 06:36 < adlai> well, it's not a joinmarket tx. mine tailings, judging by the zero fee. 06:37 < waxwing> qubenix, it's indeed allowed by protocol and i think it's often used for OP_RETURN (? am i right about that?) 06:37 < adlai> those aren't literal OP_RETURNs 06:38 < waxwing> oh, i wasn't talking about that transaction. 06:38 < waxwing> just generally thinking about whether it gets used. 06:38 * adlai hazards a guess - someone's database abstraction is leaking empty accounts into zero-value outputs 06:39 < waxwing> yeah that transaction is about as weird as it gets. i can certainly see why blockchain detective work is fun for some people. 06:41 < adlai> several of these got caught in the "does anyone still use PKH" query 06:45 < adlai> sweeps do seem to be disproportionately common in recent PKH coinjoins, so it could be that folks are sweeping out the old pkh wallets 06:46 < qubenix> waxwing: right, i thought 0 value was only allowed with op_return, but i didn't see that these were op_return. so i was confused. 06:46 < waxwing> ah i see. 11:38 -!- jungly [jungly@gateway/vpn/nordvpn/jungly] has joined #joinmarket 11:45 -!- jungly [jungly@gateway/vpn/nordvpn/jungly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56 -!- jungly [jungly@gateway/vpn/nordvpn/jungly] has joined #joinmarket 13:20 -!- MrKukks [5fae416b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.174.65.107] has joined #joinmarket 14:15 -!- MrKukks [5fae416b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.174.65.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:24 -!- jungly [jungly@gateway/vpn/nordvpn/jungly] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12 -!- AgoraRelay [~jmrelayfn@p5DE4ABFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:12 -!- CgRelayBot [~CgRelayBo@p5DE4ABFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:16 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has joined #joinmarket 17:24 -!- CgRelayBot [~CgRelayBo@p5DE4A551.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 17:28 -!- AgoraRelay [~jmrelayfn@p5DE4A551.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 18:05 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mazrdkhkfctjxwxs] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:10 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Sun Feb 09 00:00:33 2020