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02:24 < qubenix> like a savings account, one could offer to be custodian of the funds and participate in JM with said funds. at some regular interval distribute the proceeds to each contributor by contribution size. but this requires an extraordinary amount of trust.
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03:20 < omonu> hello
03:23 < omonu> getting error that liquidity is not big enough for transactions above 0.2 btc
03:23 < omonu> looking at the orderbook there are such transactions
03:24 < qubenix> omonu: maybe your -N is too many?
03:25 < omonu> qubenix, tried with 2, it does the same
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03:26 < omonu> txfees=300, absurd_fee_per_kb=350000, max_cj_fee_abs=550000, max_cj_fee_rel=0.0005
03:26 < qubenix> maybe you have a latency or connection issue. double check your irc settings in joinmarket.cfg, or try with -w and a longer timeout.
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03:27 < omonu> qubenix the only server that is connectable is anarplex, tried cyberguerilla and darkscience which connects and disconnects for some reason.
03:28 < qubenix> cgan is gone, delete that whole section from your cfg
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03:30 < omonu> qubenix, so at the moment only one server is connectable - anarplex? thought it may the problem that client is not connecting to enough irc servers and not getting enough orders which are advertised on "joinmarket.me/ob"
03:31 < qubenix> darkscience also works, so we have two. i'm about to go afk, hopefully you figure it out or someone else can try to help.
03:32 < omonu> thanks 
03:42 < omonu> qubenix, so some people are not able to connect to irc.darkscience.net due to ""No more connections allowed from your host via this connect class(local)""
03:42 < omonu> and the host is @127.0.0.1
03:48 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] are you connecting via TOR?
03:50 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] or, tbh, it would be easier if you just copy/pasted the IRC configuration part of your joinmarket.cfg into pastebin.com and link it here. Then I'll have a look
03:51 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] there should indeed be no prob with >0.2 btc joins, that amount is definitely sufficient
03:55 < omonu> AgoraRelay AlexCato yes, I am connecting with Tor
03:55 < omonu> let me paste the configuration, give me a moment
03:59 < omonu> AgoraRelay @AlexCato @agora-irc/AlexCato https://termbin.com/q8o0
04:02 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] alright, that config is identical to my own, so this is correct (and works for me). Must be something else;
04:04 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] can you show your log, starting from "[DEBUG]  building irc" up to the error? There shouldnt be any problematic personal data in there; if there is, feel free to anonymize that
04:05 < omonu> sure, moment
04:06 < omonu> this is a log from irssi when doing /connect -SSL darksci3bfoka7tw.onion 6697  ------ https://termbin.com/qbhb
04:08 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] even if darkscience is down, there's still 26 bots available on Agora/Anarplex to proceed... so additional to that potential problem of the darkscience IRC, something else must be going on as well
04:11 < omonu> however browser can connect to irc.darkscience.net from non-tor exit ip, and #joinmarket-pit users are visible. the problem is that those 26 bots do not have enough volume to supply an order larger aprox larger than 0.2 btc
04:12 < omonu> pasting debug from jm in a minute
04:13 < omonu> https://termbin.com/jnus
04:16 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] hm, the problem is here:
04:16 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] DEBUG:orderlist =
04:16 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] DEBUG:ERROR not enough liquidity in the orderbook
04:16 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] you get exactly 0 orders
04:16 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] wondering why. Reading more...
04:17 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] an idea to debug: comment out DarkScience completely and only use Agora. I'm pretty positive that this will work for you
04:18 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] and if it does, we also learn that the IRC server redundancy isnt working as expected yet, if one server has problems (which are different from being down completely)
04:23 < omonu> tried running earlier today with agora only, which works.. but as mentioned earlier there isn't enough liquidity there for inputs above 0.2 btc
04:23 < omonu> question, why not run your own unrealircd for jm only but use 3rd parties?
04:24 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] wait, even with agora only, you get the log line "DEBUG:orderlist =  ", as in an empty orderlist?
04:27 < omonu> to explain, with agora only - inputs up to 0.2 btc work with N=4, but trying to do an input = 0.4 btc with N=4 will say liquidity is not big enough
04:27 < omonu> txfees=300, absurd_fee_per_kb=350000, max_cj_fee_abs=550000, max_cj_fee_rel=0.0005
04:28 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] just tried it myself: i get 10 possible counterparties (e.g. other bots which will join with me, supporting up to N=10) for 0.2 btc. It even works with both DarkScience and Agora active (and I can confirm that DarkScience does not work for me right now, same as in your logs)
04:29 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] now i'm even more confused why your bot doesnt see the offers that I receive
04:29 < omonu> you are not understanding me
04:29 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] i'm not?
04:29 < omonu> "inputs up to 0.2 btc work"
04:29 < omonu> try 0.5 btc with N=4 only with agora
04:29 < omonu> or try 5 btc only with agora
04:30 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] will do. gimme a bit
04:32 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] 5 btc: works for me with N up to 8
04:33 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] (Agora only as well)
04:33 < omonu> single join or multiple join?
04:33 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] single
04:33 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] but multi joins are just batched single joins
04:33 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] so shouldnt matter
04:33 < omonu> can you tell me your txfees=300, absurd_fee_per_kb=350000, max_cj_fee_abs=550000, max_cj_fee_rel=0.0005
04:35 < omonu> have an idea
04:35 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] didnt define that at all, I used "-P" in the command line so it shows all potential offers to me. With cf_fee_rel at 0.05% (your setting), still N up to 5 is possible. Only 3 makers ask for slighlty above 0.05% fees
04:35 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] Considered orders:
04:35 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato]      0.     J57pg7DnTogKzzkC, CJ fee: 0.000011, tx fee:      0
04:35 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato]      1.     J5BU8XQQo9awMJAA, CJ fee: 0.000018, tx fee:     11
04:35 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato]      2.     J56XRtGNLJVUbamn, CJ fee: 0.000018, tx fee:      0
04:35 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato]      3.     J53FfsPABCTda9Z5, CJ fee: 0.00001799991000018, tx fee:      0
04:35 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato]      4.     J54YFquHpNkm83rN, CJ fee: 0.000093, tx fee:      0
04:35 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato]      5.     J59t9Y4XjuvswyBt, CJ fee: 0.000563, tx fee:      0
04:35 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato]      6.     J58ZMB8Q6nFsu89E, CJ fee: 0.000575, tx fee:      0
04:35 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato]      7.     J52ERdiLGDxr8Y5n, CJ fee: 0.000718, tx fee:      0
04:35 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] thats for 5 BTC
04:37 < omonu> hmm appreciate, seems it needs more debugging on my side
04:38 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] in your log, it seems like you receive 0 offers. As a test, you can increase your max_cj_fee_rel to maybe 0.001 and max_cj_fee_abs (add a zero or two) and see if it makes a difference
04:39 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] but i think it's not that
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04:41 < omonu> a temporary fix for darkscience connections is getting a 1$ vps and making a tunnel from Tor using torsocks to that vps over ssh and binding a local port for socks5 getting a working connection from tor -> vps -> darkscience 
04:41 < omonu> torsocks sshpass -p "password" ssh -p 22 user@host -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -N -D 127.0.0.1:5555
04:42 < omonu> setting localhost:5555 as socks5 for irc server darkscience works and connects correctly
04:42 < omonu> let me try to increase max_cj_fee_rel
04:46 < omonu> ERROR not enough liquidity in the orderbook n=5 suitable-counterparties=0 amount=1 totalorders=0
04:46 < omonu> will check again when back, brb 45min
04:47 < omonu> also getting lots of these
04:47 < omonu> DEBUG:nick signature verification failed, ignoring: J53czqpA7DastJLR
04:47 < omonu> to be correct, 80 of those for different JXXXX ids
04:48 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] oh? That will get the makers ignored if the sig verification failed
04:48 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] interestingly, i saw 0 sig verification failures on my side
04:48 < omonu> if it matters, running gui
04:49 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] this might be the underlying problem. Now i'd need to understand why. I'm currently running a bit older version of JM, but will download and try the most recent one right now to see if it makes a difference
04:49 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] GUI should not make a difference
04:50 < omonu> let me know when you know more, will try debugging when back
04:50 < omonu> have a nice day
04:51 < omonu> and get some fresh air ;)
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04:54 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/omonu] will be around here
05:04 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] tested the newest JM version as well: i still get 8 offers (N=8) for a 5 BTC coinjoin request. It's not a version issue.  I've again also not seen any "DEBUG:nick signature verification failed, ignoring" messages.
05:04 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] i believe that last message filters out all valid, potential counterparties you could join with. Though it would make no sense that it works for you with up to 0.2 btc, that shouldnt work either then
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05:43 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/omonu] ls
05:43 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/omonu] back, will check now
06:13 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/omonu] signature verifications are happening only on darkscience irc
06:14 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/omonu] last run 84 fails / 120 users on channel
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06:19 < spud-u2-like> Is there any way of measuring how well mixed a utxo is? E.g. probability that a utxo from a deposit is connected to a final utxo?
06:33 < spud-u2-like> I presume I can multiply the Boltzmann link probability for each transaction in the chain between two utxos, but is there a tool that will do something like that?
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07:29 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/omonu] AlexCato: no luck in solving nick signature verification fail.. kind of weird
07:30 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/omonu] problem could be somewhere further, maybe in some python package version
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07:59 < omonu> anyone received lots of "nick signature verification failed" ?
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09:02 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/omonu] AlexCato: here?
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10:15 < kristapsk> anybody knows some cheap VPS service provider (like 1$, as omonu mentioned above) that accepts BTC (preferably LN)?
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10:40 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/omonu] kristapsk you can try something like mvps.net , hostsailor.com , i-83.net, poiskvps.ru ...
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11:46 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/omonu] jo belcher
11:48 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/belcher] yo
11:48 < DSRelBot> [cgan/belcher] oh cool darkscience has a relay bot now too
11:48 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/belcher] yo omonu
12:16 < kristapsk> only it still thinks about itself as cgan, not darkscience :)
12:17 < belcher> haha
12:51 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] ops. Fixing.
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13:27 < AgoraRelay> [agora-irc/AlexCato] fixed
13:31 < DSRelBot> [DS/belcher] testing
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