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04:31 < waxwing> https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/pull/525#issuecomment-599043850 <-- we need to fix the bitcoind download for travis somehow. i think the ppa has been removed or something? does anyone know/can help?
04:31 < waxwing> reminder from yesterday if you didn't see it, this is the travis error now on 538:  https://travis-ci.org/github/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/jobs/662142182#L178
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05:00 < waxwing> i'll try something like this: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/scripts/install_bitcoind.sh
05:00 < waxwing> should be easy enough
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07:34 < waxwing> takinbo, undeath, kristapsk_ , anyone else: where should i be putting the bitcoin binaries if i download them (this is for travis)? afaict current travis basically just system installs, right?
07:35 < waxwing> i guess just /usr/local/bin works?
07:36 < takinbo> I would suggest either `/usr/local/bin` or `/use/bin` if the former is not in the system path by default
07:36 < takinbo> `/usr/bin` was what I meant
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07:38 < kristapsk> waxwing, I'm no expert with Travis
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07:39 < waxwing> no me neither but i guess i just need it to work for the versions of linux that get tested, which they have a list of under the docker images here:
07:39 < waxwing> https://travis-ci.org/github/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/builds/662403725
07:39 < waxwing> the MacOS part shouldn't be affected by this afaik
07:41 < waxwing> anyway: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/pull/538/commits/a790a56a8ee999bc5f11d9ec895e8a98cc0c2825
07:41 < waxwing> i mean i doubt it'll work but even if it does i think i need to change the location of the download for the caching to work.
07:51 < waxwing> and given that it's taking several minutes to download it, that's going to matter :)
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08:35 < waxwing> ok so that extra install_bitcoind.sh script (which i cribbed from lnd, but it's very simple), worked, but given the cap on download speed for travis it takes too long without the files being cached. i'll try to get it right myself but if someone who looked at this stuff ( takinbo ) could take a look it'd help. it should be very simple.
08:35 < waxwing> (re: #538)
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09:03 < kristapsk> technonerd, finally trying that I2P stuff again, it's clearly addressbook issues, I'm suspecting there is something broken with Gentoo default I2P config
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13:10 < takinbo> waxwing: instead of downloading bitcoin-core to `~/bitcoin`, why not have that saved in `~/downloads`?
13:12 < takinbo> I'm skeptical that travis will recreate a cached directory (and its parent subdirectories) if it doesn't exist so if you still wanted to cache the bitcoin directory, then use $HOME/bitcoin and not the full path to the directory containing the binaries
13:28 < waxwing> takinbo, yes that's what i meant in the comments about 'sure this could be done better' (i had the same thought), if you PR it that'd be great
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14:38 < kristapsk> has anybody experienced unreliability issues with AgoraIRC + JM today / recently?
14:44 < kristapsk> also, haven't studied that IRC handling part much, but could it be, that if you do sendpayment.py -P and do it for too long, some ping timeout happens with IRC and that causes problems with peers from that server?
14:45 < kristapsk> what I experienced was unability to connect to Agora peers with error and immediately successful reconnect to Agora
14:45 < kristapsk> s/unability to connect/unability to send privmsg/
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15:09 < tlo1337> Attempting to CJ on the Taker side, but it seems as if it's not starting. These are the last few lines on the terminal: 
15:09 < tlo1337> 2020-03-14 09:31:51,907 [INFO]  Using maximum coinjoin fee limits per maker of 0.1000%, 0.00006641 BTC (6641 sat) 
15:09 < tlo1337> 2020-03-14 09:31:52,991 [INFO]  Listening on port 27183
15:09 < tlo1337> 2020-03-14 09:51:53,049 [INFO]  STALL MONITOR:
15:09 < tlo1337> 2020-03-14 09:51:53,051 [INFO]  No stall detected, continuing
15:10 < tlo1337> Any thoughts on how to get it going would be appreciated
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15:17 < belcher> tlo1337 i think that message is normal, so just waiting should do it
15:20 < tlo1337> Okay that's what I figured, thank you. The person who got me using JM told me to ask in here even though I thought it was normal and to wait it out;)
15:20 < belcher> how long have you waited, has the tumbler created its first coinjoin which should be immediate
15:21 < belcher> it creates the first coinjoin, then waits a bit (like 30 minutes, its random) then the next one, etc
15:22 < tlo1337> When I tried earlier today I waited several hours before I asked them
15:22 < tlo1337> And no the tumbler hasn't created it's first coinjoin
15:27 < tlo1337> Wait I think I made a noob mistake. Destination addresses can't be bech32 correct?
15:27 < belcher> they can
15:27 < belcher> there is hopefully be some other error message saying why it hasnt created its first coinjoin
15:28 < waxwing> look at logs/TUMBLE.schedule
15:28 < tlo1337> Okay that's not it then. Only other thing I can think of is when generating the schedule I changed the avg wait time btwn txns
15:28 < tlo1337> ok
15:28 < waxwing> right, if you changed the wait time then logs/TUMBLE.schedule and logs/TUMBLE.log (wait is that the right name for that one?) could be useful
15:29 < waxwing> iirc the wait times are measured in minutes, again i'd have to double check
15:29 < waxwing> https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/blob/master/docs/tumblerguide.md#tumbler-schedule-and-logging
15:32 < waxwing> tlo1337, ^
15:38 < tlo1337> tbh i'm not sure how to check the logs haha. been trying to figure it out. using QT fwiw
15:39 < waxwing> ok, on Qt the schedule is right there in the tab. but the logs are in ~/.joinmarket/logs/TUMBLE.log (and the other one)
15:39 < waxwing> but the obvious thing to check is the wait times are in minutes i believe, maybe you thought they were seconds.
15:39 < waxwing> more info in that guide i linked above.
15:43 < kristapsk> tlo1337, waxwing , that log location is with master branch, last release (v0.6.1) still have everything under JoinMarket dir
15:44 < waxwing> kristapsk, ok thanks. then log we're talking about is in joinmarket-clientserver/logs/TUMBLE.log.
15:45 < waxwing> i can do a new release this week
15:45 < kristapsk> joinmarket-clientserver/scripts/logs/TUMBLE.log I think :)
15:45 < tlo1337> right i see the schedule, but i thought we want the logs? and okay i'll try and check that log location, having a hard time finding it currently. not used to linux directories
15:45 < tlo1337> ah ty!
15:46 < kristapsk> waxwing, would be cool, there are some other changes, like added hackint IRC and removed Cyberguerilla, that are important IMO
15:46 < waxwing> kristapsk, oh yeah lol, dumb of me sorry
15:46 < waxwing> yes i know it's important, i did say earlier i didn't object to someone else doing it :)
15:46 < waxwing> but in any case probably just as well we waited a week or two before the hackint change .. is it working fine?
15:47 < belcher> are any PRs needed before the next release?
15:47 < belcher> we merged the curl/wget one
15:47 < kristapsk> haven't noticed any issues, but I haven't looked into logs how much communication between JM peers for joins have actually happened through hacking
15:47 < belcher> i could do a release tonight i think
15:48 < kristapsk> belcher, there are few that are kinda simple, that I would like to see, like #466, #511, maybe also #523
15:49 < kristapsk> for #466 and #511 there were utACK's from belcher , but didn't want to merge yet without other ACK's maybe, as they weren't urgent
15:50 < tlo1337> okay i found the logs. one shows this: 2020-03-14 18:36:58,818 [MainThread  ] [DEBUG]  building irc
15:50 < tlo1337> 2020-03-14 18:36:58,819 [MainThread  ] [DEBUG]  building irc
15:50 < tlo1337> other shows this: 2020-03-14 09:31:53,124 [MainThread  ] [DEBUG]  building irc
15:50 < tlo1337> 2020-03-14 09:31:53,143 [MainThread  ] [DEBUG]  building irc
15:50 < tlo1337> 2020-03-14 09:51:53,049 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  STALL MONITOR:
15:50 < tlo1337> 2020-03-14 09:51:53,051 [MainThread  ] [INFO ]  No stall detected, continuing
15:50 < tlo1337> 2020-03-14 15:18:03,391 [MainThread  ] [DEBUG]  Transaction aborted.
15:50 < tlo1337> 2020-03-14 15:18:17,558 [MainThread  ] [DEBUG]  Looking for schedule in: ('', '')
15:50 < tlo1337> 2020-03-14 17:46:53,555 [MainThread  ] [WARNI]  Connection was reset, attempting reconnect.
15:51 < kristapsk> for #511 I was actually just waiting for waxwing's comment, that he hasn't any objections against current implementation
15:51 < waxwing> is there a "jmdaemon setup complete" line anywhere? it looks likes you failed to connect? but .. that sounds a bit wrong.
15:51 < tlo1337> fwiw i only changed minutes from 60.0 to 90.0, i knew they aren't seconds
15:53 < tlo1337> no "jmdaemon setup complete" line in there anywhere, just what i shared above
15:53 < waxwing> kristapsk, 511 sure, 466 and 523 i'd rather not merge without thinking/looking, and none of the three seem urgent at all. it's nice to have a second person to test, even if it's just sanity check, but tbh when they're very simple it's maybe not a huge deal.
15:53 < waxwing> can we just put those two off please?
15:54 < tlo1337> i opened these other two log files as the other .log file called TUMBLE.log was blank, that sound about right?
15:54 < waxwing> tlo1337, yes then you definitely didn't succeed in connecting to irc so the process never started.
15:54 < tlo1337> okay so just wait it out then? don't mind being patient
15:54 < waxwing> please could you pastebin your joinmarket.cfg with sensitive data (specifically, your rpc credentials) edited out.
15:54 < belcher> are you using the default IRC servers? they've been changed recently so you may need to update
15:54 < waxwing> i want to see your IRC configuration specifically.
15:55 < waxwing> if you are connecting over tor HS, is that config correct, can you connect outside IRC. i would suggest using only darkscience IRC server and comment out any others for now.
15:55 < kristapsk> waxwing, 523 sure, with 466 I really think that --version stuff can help at some times with user support
15:55 < belcher> get them from this https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/blob/master/jmclient/jmclient/configure.py#L124-L165
15:55 < belcher> see the yellow highlighted bit
15:55 < waxwing> this is me just dumping info btw because not guaranteed to be around for much longer tlo1337 
15:55 < belcher> they are the new IRC servers
15:56 < waxwing> kristapsk, i agree that 466 is helpful but i don't have time/inclination to address the points that were discussed there right now, given a release is desirable (now = like, this week).
15:56 < waxwing> i mean if belcher is sure about then for sure just go ahead and do it.
15:56 < belcher> what is "it" 
15:57 < kristapsk> waxwing, ahh, wrong number, I was waiting for your comment on 466, not 511 :)
15:57 < waxwing>  #466
15:57 < belcher> ah
15:58 < kristapsk> ok, guess I will just merge 511, I have actually  running it in production for weeks without any issues myself
15:59 < tlo1337> @waxwing np i appreciate the help in the meantime. here is the conf with my RPC creds: https://pastebin.com/mQjaLfHU
15:59 < tlo1337> *without
15:59 < belcher> i got nothing against that, also #511 is very simple
16:00 < waxwing> comment out the whole of MESSAGING:server1 tlo1337 
16:00 < waxwing> we're going to put out a release in the next few days because that server isn't working (although, technically it should not prevent the bot starting)
16:00 < tlo1337> by comment out you mean put a "#" at the beginning correct?
16:00 < belcher> iv forgotten how that code works, but shouldnt he still be able to connect because he's using darkscience ?
16:01 < waxwing> yeah should be
16:01 < waxwing> tlo1337, yes
16:01 < kristapsk> it whould work, just some extra 60 second delay
16:01 < waxwing> tlo1337, but belcher linked above a section that you can just actually copy
16:02 < waxwing> wait we now have *3* by default? i thought it was just darkscience and hackint, so we include agora, i see.
16:02 < waxwing> sorry not been using for a while, just focused on code/testing.
16:02 < waxwing> is there some obscure reason why the "wait 60 seconds then continue" doesn't work for Qt? can anyone check that?
16:02 < belcher> agora is commented out by default
16:02 < kristapsk> in v0.6.1 only cyberguerilla and darkscience by default
16:02 < tlo1337> okay ill try the link above, missed it. will lyk if that helps
16:03 < belcher> oh wait i reread, yes we have 3 by default now
16:03 < kristapsk> in current master - darkscience, agora and hackint
16:03 < waxwing> belcher, is it? but not in that link
16:03 < waxwing> right
16:03 < belcher> i was the one who edited it leaving in agora... i figured one flaky server shouldnt harm the process, and it might sometimes work
16:03 < kristapsk> but I wrote above about agora, had issue today, but not so sure it's not also something with our IRC code
16:03 < kristapsk> e.g. IRC ping timeout
16:04 < waxwing> yeah it shouldn't matter except one thing: if you get a continuous connect and then disconnect cycle
16:04 < waxwing> yes something along those lines, i don't think it'd be ping actually, but .. could be any weird thing
16:04 < kristapsk> belcher, I think I insisted on leaving agore, as at that moment darkscience had problems, so idea was to better have more servers
16:05 < waxwing> it's been a while but i remember giving up on agora because of some pattern of behaviour like that. we can deal with "doesn't connect" but cycling is something that causes serious problems.
16:06 < waxwing> i mean it's not just "cycle" but could be like "connects fine and then immediately boots you when you privmsg", kinda nasty.
16:06 < tlo1337> okay i got JM daemon setup complete this time
16:07 < waxwing> tlo1337 good to hear :)
16:07 < waxwing> then it should start trying to transact
16:07 < waxwing> afk
16:09 < tlo1337> awesome. thank you:)
16:10 < tlo1337> welp i just got could not find orders in the orderbook haha. any tips on what to tweak? got to step out for a bit, but will try any suggestions. ty everyone
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17:49 < tlo1337> https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/blob/master/docs/tumblerguide.md#possible-failure-vectors---crash-or-shutdown and from this link for my issue there is only the suggestion to have a good number of counterparties, which i do so not sure what to tweak next as i keep getting insufficient liquidity popping up. willing to try out any suggestions. 
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