--- Log opened Fri May 01 00:00:08 2020 00:09 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52 -!- zndtoshi [4f765f2d@79.118.95.45] has joined #joinmarket 00:52 -!- zndtoshi [4f765f2d@79.118.95.45] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:59 -!- zndtoshi [~IceChat9@79.118.95.45] has joined #joinmarket 01:00 -!- zndtoshi [~IceChat9@79.118.95.45] has quit [Client Quit] 01:18 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:18 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #joinmarket 01:55 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.171.39.129] has joined #joinmarket 01:57 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:57 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:59 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.165.84.239] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:02 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 02:02 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 02:13 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:14 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #joinmarket 02:16 < waxwing> gustavo, re: changes nick, almost certainly not, you probably saw "dynamic switch nick" which doesn't mean that. 02:16 < waxwing> the evidence suggests that either (a) the taker bot sent a message chunk without ';' at the end, possibly due to truncation, or (b) the taker bot's first message in that set simply didn't arrive. 02:17 < waxwing> please reproduce on either regtest or mainnet. i don't have time to set this up on testnet and deal with syncing, crazy reorgs and getting hold of coins, sorry :) i have enormous amounts of work to do on Joinmarket as it is. 02:17 < waxwing> of course if someone else wants to, great 02:18 < waxwing> i can't reproduce this on regtest and have never seen it happen on mainnet myself. it's quite possible that others have. but what's suspicious is (a) that it's repeatable in your case and (b) it's crazy that you get this behaviour at exactly the point where that commit crashes (and that's the *only* commit that has that bug!) 02:27 -!- MaxSan [~four@82-69-7-221.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #joinmarket 02:38 -!- zndtoshi [~IceChat9@89.33.246.28] has joined #joinmarket 02:40 < zndtoshi> here is probably a bad suggestion: I was thinking of future users having a JM phone app and how they would easily connect to a full node (as having a full node on the phone is not probable) and considering I believe the future of full nodes will be the mynodebtc route (rpi4 with full node and 02:40 < zndtoshi> electrum server and etc on it) why not when booting JM f 02:40 < zndtoshi> irst time (be it on pc or future phone app) have an initial local network scan and check if there's an electrum server port open and if there is, just connect to that? I'd say would be great from now on to have apps just scan for electrum servers on the local network. Would be so much easier for non 02:40 < zndtoshi> technical users. On the other hand I don't know h 02:40 < zndtoshi> ow OK is to do this from a "safe practices" point of view. 02:42 < waxwing> zndtoshi, what do you see as the advantage for a JM app to connect to an electrum server with a full node backing it, rather than the full node itself? 02:43 < waxwing> this question seems tied up with if and how we choose to use bip157/8 in future also 02:48 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #joinmarket 03:09 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has joined #joinmarket 03:09 < johnonchain1> Hello. I have a question on the swreloffer on the maker side 03:10 < johnonchain1> in the documentation, we can see this cjfee_r = '0.0002' # 0.02% fee 03:11 < johnonchain1> it appears that the actual percentage is determined by multiplying by 100 the value of the variable 03:11 < johnonchain1> *real percantage > actual (sorry) 03:12 < johnonchain1> On my last mix, it appears that the real percentage IS egual to the value of the variable 03:14 < johnonchain1> it looks like the documentation (https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/blob/master/docs/YIELDGENERATOR.md) is not well documented 03:18 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has joined #joinmarket 03:29 < darosior> johnonchain1: what do you mean by "not well documented" ?.. Anyway note that you need to set the `ordertype` variable to 'swreloffer' and that if you use the yg-privacy enhanced script, the actual percentage is randomized (you can tweak the variance, 03:29 < darosior> https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/blob/4a01d3c35df46bba4da01c5be30ab1956381dcde/scripts/yg-privacyenhanced.py#L21) 03:31 < johnonchain1> I'm using yield-generator-basic.py with cjfee_r 03:31 < johnonchain1> I'll test with yg-privacy 03:33 < darosior> Ok, what did you find "not well documented" ? 03:34 < johnonchain1> In yield-generator, I configure cjfee_r with something like X value 03:35 < johnonchain1> After a mix, the script gives fee earned and the amount of the cj 03:36 < johnonchain1> fee earned / cj amount gives = cjfee_r value 03:37 < johnonchain1> but here, you can see this cjfee_r = '0.0002' # 0.02% fee 03:37 < johnonchain1> here > https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/blob/master/docs/YIELDGENERATOR.md 03:38 < johnonchain1> in fact the documentation need to specify this cjfee_r = '0.0002' # 0.0002% fee 03:38 < johnonchain1> not 0.02% 03:42 < darosior> Hmm `amount * 0.0002` is "0.02% of amount", in the same sense `amount * 0.5` is "50% of amount" 03:43 < darosior> I think it's a detail to help people which usually reason in percents 03:53 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #joinmarket 03:56 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:18 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has joined #joinmarket 04:21 < johnonchain1> wups @darosir you're right... I think I'm more tired than I thought... 04:41 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:51 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #joinmarket 04:56 -!- Joanny66Kunde [~Joanny66K@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #joinmarket 05:02 -!- Joanny66Kunde [~Joanny66K@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:06 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:07 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:11 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 05:12 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 05:19 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:49 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has joined #joinmarket 06:16 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:16 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:26 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 06:26 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 06:36 -!- nixbitcoin [~nixbitcoi@gateway/tor-sasl/nixbitcoin] has joined #joinmarket 06:53 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ghmvakivqdplnqbe] has joined #joinmarket 07:27 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:27 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:33 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 07:38 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 07:55 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 08:37 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:37 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:42 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 08:42 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 09:07 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:08 -!- gustavo [~gustavo@host81-157-142-9.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: gustavo] 09:16 -!- nkuttler [~nkuttler@unaffiliated/nkuttler] has quit [Quit: Changing server] 09:23 -!- nkuttler [~nkuttler@unaffiliated/nkuttler] has joined #joinmarket 09:24 -!- nkuttler [~nkuttler@unaffiliated/nkuttler] has quit [Client Quit] 09:25 -!- nkuttler [~nkuttler@unaffiliated/nkuttler] has joined #joinmarket 09:47 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:47 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:52 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 09:57 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 10:04 -!- bitbee [~bitbee@unaffiliated/cryptocat] has joined #joinmarket 10:15 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has joined #joinmarket 10:26 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:31 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:42 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has joined #joinmarket 10:49 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:56 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:57 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:02 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 11:06 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 11:49 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has joined #joinmarket 11:59 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:18 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.171.39.129] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18 -!- jonatack__ [~jon@37.171.39.129] has joined #joinmarket 12:19 -!- jonatack__ [~jon@37.171.39.129] has quit [Client Quit] 12:19 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.171.39.129] has joined #joinmarket 13:06 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:07 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:12 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 13:12 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 13:19 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 13:23 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.173.227.77] has joined #joinmarket 13:58 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.171.39.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:16 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:17 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:22 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 14:22 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 14:25 -!- johnonchain1 [~johnoncha@2a01:cb14:cf6:bc00:818:1b8b:9d81:cf4e] has joined #joinmarket 15:07 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: azizLIGHT, k3tan, kanzure, puddinpop, dopplergange, windsok, bitbee, justinmoon, deafboy, HackRelay, (+1 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 15:07 -!- windsok [~windsok@rarepepe.cash] has joined #joinmarket 15:07 -!- k3tan [~pi@217.138.204.85] has joined #joinmarket 15:08 -!- windsok [~windsok@rarepepe.cash] has quit [Changing host] 15:08 -!- windsok [~windsok@unaffiliated/windsok] has joined #joinmarket 15:08 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-crawnvmjiludemga] has joined #joinmarket 15:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: bitbee 15:08 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-crawnvmjiludemga] has quit [Changing host] 15:08 -!- rdymac [uid31665@unaffiliated/rdymac] has joined #joinmarket 15:08 -!- rdymac [uid31665@unaffiliated/rdymac] has quit [Changing host] 15:08 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-crawnvmjiludemga] has joined #joinmarket 15:09 -!- Netsplit over, joins: deafboy 15:09 -!- k3tan [~pi@217.138.204.85] has quit [Changing host] 15:09 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has joined #joinmarket 15:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: dopplergange 15:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: justinmoon 15:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: azizLIGHT 15:12 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@unaffiliated/kanzure] has joined #joinmarket 15:20 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p54866F9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 15:33 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:34 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 15:35 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:35 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 15:36 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 15:49 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:50 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/user54321] Hi - if I tumble 1BTC into three addresses and then I combine all three into a single btc transaction, does that undo the effects of the join? 15:51 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/user54321] I assumed yes because the transaction will tie all the output together - and the amounts pre-join will roughly match the amount of that transaction... 15:53 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/user54321] For example I get 1 BTC from an exchange but want to spend 0.9. I tumble into three addresses containing 0.35 0.5 and 0,15. Now I have to combine all three addresses in order to spend 0.9. So does spending 0,9 now make the tumble worthless? 15:55 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.173.227.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:56 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.165.194.161] has joined #joinmarket 16:21 < undeath> user54321: if you use tumbler.py with default settings to tumble your coins it's going to be hard for an adversary to link those together 16:23 < undeath> that said, ideally you'd spread individual tumble steps through multiple days or even longer 16:23 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24 < undeath> (sorry, gtg) 16:24 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8] 16:25 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #joinmarket 16:26 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:26 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:32 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 16:32 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 17:05 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 17:12 < belcher_> user54321 see if you can get multiple addresses to pay the person you're paying 17:12 < belcher_> instead of just one address, then its wont be needed to co-spend those 3 inputs in your example, because they could be spent individually 17:13 < belcher_> iv finished coding PR 544 (fidelity bond wallets) (!) 17:14 < belcher_> now ill spend a bit of time looking at 536 (python-bitcointx backend for jmbitcoin) 17:35 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 17:35 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has left #joinmarket [] 17:35 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 17:45 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p54866F9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:47 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p54866F9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:50 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:52 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #joinmarket 17:59 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p5DE4A125.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 17:59 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p5DE4A125.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 18:21 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 18:22 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #joinmarket 19:03 < Evanito> yo 19:30 -!- Florella [3ad51af8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.58.213.26.248] has joined #joinmarket 19:32 -!- Florella [3ad51af8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.58.213.26.248] has quit [Client Quit] 19:36 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:37 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:42 -!- viasil [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 19:42 -!- viasil_ [~viasil@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 20:10 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has joined #joinmarket 20:10 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/user54321] Even if I spend with multiple addresses, the person receiving the coin would be able to connect the three together 20:11 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/user54321] also they may just combine them on the blockchain upon receipt 20:51 -!- liamliamliam [4648d440@S0106a84e3fdec863.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #joinmarket 21:38 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #joinmarket 21:42 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has joined #joinmarket 21:45 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:46 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has joined #joinmarket 22:42 -!- liamliamliam [4648d440@S0106a84e3fdec863.cg.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:36 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/user54321] what do you think @belcher_ --- Log closed Sat May 02 00:00:10 2020