--- Log opened Sun May 03 00:00:11 2020 00:03 -!- tlo1337 [~tlo1337@142.183.170.75] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:06 -!- tlo1337 [~tlo1337@142.183.170.75] has joined #joinmarket 00:17 < tlo1337> attempting to run yg for the first time and in the docs i'm following the edits to be made for the privacyenhanced.py script, but im stuck on the last thing to edit: minsize = int(1.2 * txfee / float(cjfee)) 00:18 < tlo1337> im confused about what to edit the minsize to exactly 00:19 < tlo1337> since the txfee is 1000, should the minsize be 1000 x 1.2? 01:42 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has joined #joinmarket 02:47 < waxwing> user "if you run out of utxos mid tumble .." - the tumbler algorithm does a few things for this. first, it tries again after 20 minutes, repeatedly, which will work when your utxos are too new. 02:48 < waxwing> second, it tweaks the amount to smaller amounts for non-sweeps which can help when the amount is too large for you to have a 20% size utxo (much less common). 02:50 < waxwing> in my experience it's very rare for you to just not be able to source a commitment for a join, at least with default type parameters (say around 9 counterparties), you'll rarely fail to have the tx go through. txs/joins getting set up but not completing repeatedly, many times, would be one vector for eventually running out of commmitments to source in the wallet. 02:50 < waxwing> if that isn't happening you'll generally have way more than enough. 02:50 < waxwing> tlo1337, don't edit that line 02:52 < waxwing> tlo1337, that line is not in yg-privacyenhanced.py ? 02:52 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:52 < waxwing> anyway you edit the part at the top, not the code. for the minsize just put some reasonable small number of sats and see what happens. 02:53 < waxwing> it's just the minimum coinjoin amount your bot will accept. 03:47 < DSRelBot> [DS/AlexCato] user] Think mixing as a maker would go faster if you reduced your fee to 0? --> definite "no". Running as a taker is always faster, except for some close-to-impossible theoretical scenarios. 03:49 < DSRelBot> [DS/AlexCato] and sorry if that was already answered, was disconnected from irc for a few hours 05:04 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:17 < waxwing> i mean almost by definition it's "faster" but the effect is *probably* negligible in practice, today. but there are other considerations. 05:17 < waxwing> with tumbler you can do sweeps, creating completions of mixdepth closures. yield generators never do that. 05:18 < waxwing> with tumbler you also get full privacy from all counterparties unless they are *all* sybils, whereas you don't get that as yieldgenerator because every tx mapping is known by the taker. 05:18 < waxwing> that latter point doesn't matter hugely, but it's a consideration at least. 05:20 < waxwing> also, there's fast and fast. you probably want tumbler to take a few days. on yg, unless volume on JM is really ramping up, you're probably looking at weeks at least to get a vaguely similar effect. but maybe just run tumbler for weeks, it's entirely possible and quite logical, too. 05:54 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:55 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has joined #joinmarket 06:03 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:05 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has joined #joinmarket 06:11 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has joined #joinmarket 06:23 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:24 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has joined #joinmarket 07:02 < tlo1337> waxwing ok ty 07:02 -!- tlo1337 [~tlo1337@142.183.170.75] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:03 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 08:38 -!- Killswitch [~yeah@139.28.218.20] has joined #joinmarket 08:47 < Killswitch> hello 08:52 -!- Killswitch 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13:50 -!- bece [c4340a0d@ip-13-10-52-196.mx.northamericancoax.com] has joined #joinmarket 14:04 -!- EvanitoC [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:05 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 14:21 -!- bece [c4340a0d@ip-13-10-52-196.mx.northamericancoax.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has joined #joinmarket 15:10 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8] 16:24 -!- MaxSan [~four@185.156.175.171] has joined #joinmarket 16:33 < waxwing> ok got the full bip79++ payjoin workflow running with both server and client in regtest :) hacky of course but there wont' be much more work before i can test it against a btcpay-server. 16:33 < waxwing> i'll push the code to the 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