--- Log opened Thu May 14 00:00:20 2020
00:01 < tlo1337> nvm i just assumed i had to restart it, made the most sense
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01:00 < waxwing> tlo1337, it means your connection to bitcoind failed
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01:00 < waxwing> yes it needs to be restarted (but ofc more to the point the bitcoind connection shouldn't fail. however i believe there is an open issue for this - our code should not just crash in this case, even though it is a critical error (the program can't run without a connection to bitcoind)
01:06 < tlo1337> ty for that. i did restart YG but i don't understand why bitcoind lost connection for a bit and then regained it itself. i could send you the logs if you'd like but it's fine now
01:36 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/AlexCato] are bitcoind and joinmarket running on the same machine? If not, it just could be caused by a temporary network glitch
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02:35 < tlo1337> no, so must be it
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03:32 < waxwing> could be a bit of an issue for JM. if you run "node in a box" it would certainly work better to have joinmarket on that box, and then just control it via ssh. but if that option isn't possible, we might have to deal better with any bitcoind connection drops.
03:33 < waxwing> i remember being a bit concerned about this one. suppose we just leave the yg running and wait for bitcoind connection to come back up. it's probably fine, but we would have to make sure we know exactly how the code behaves during that period.
03:34 < waxwing> there is no generic "freeze all operations" at the moment.
03:42 < waxwing> small datapoint, v0.6.2 test suite takes 4min18s, pr 544 takes 5min20 - which isnt surprising, there are more tests, and i'm guessing one or two have to cover the slightly more intensive sync of FB wallets
03:47 < waxwing> "Coins sent to this address will be not be spendable until the year 2020. Full date: 2020-12-01 00:00:00" <-- i mean it's clarified but perhaps not the best phrasing :)
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05:44 < belcher> waxwing why is it not the best phrasing
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05:58 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/AlexCato] What's the relevance of starting with just the year and then also give the full date? Maybe it makes more sense to just have the full date... I dont see why the year needs to be displayed so prominently
06:09 < belcher> my thinking was that it may help stop the user locking coins until the year 2050
06:09 < belcher> in waxwing's example he locked until just a few months from now, if a user did that accidently it would be annoying but not catastrophic, they can just wait a few months
07:10 < kristapsk> "Coins sent to this address will be not be spendable until the December 2020. Full date: 2020-12-01 00:00:00" would sound better for me
07:14 < belcher> right so add the month name as well
07:15 < belcher> thats a good idea, i dont have anything against that
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07:43 < waxwing> yeah it's no big deal, just thought it read a bit weird for dates in <current year> :)
07:43 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/AlexCato] yeah, I like that idea as well. And see why the year is so prominently
07:48 < belcher> when OP_CLTV was first activated people joked about accidently locking up coins until the 22nd century
07:53 < waxwing> i wouldn't even have mentioned it by "locked up *until* 2020" just doesn't read right. it sounds like the program doesnt know what year it is :)
07:53 < waxwing> s/by/but/
08:03 < belcher> "month_name year" should fix that i guess
08:04 < waxwing> sgtm :)
08:14 < belcher> done and pushed, also fixed that crash bug
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09:52 < waxwing> belcher, was just thinking, what's the logic of requiring the burn payment be a sweep? it makes the tx cheaper, it's true: but it also means that i have to ensure that the mixdepth contains (approximately) how much i want to burn right? so it doesn't it end up not saving money? or are there other considerations i'm not thinking of
09:53 < waxwing> like no linkage of change? that seems a little unclear to me
09:53 < belcher> it keeps the tx size as low as possible, because those txes along with their merkle proofs will have to be sent across the network every time a taker requests the orderbook
09:54 < belcher> there can only be one input too, for the same reasoning, 1-input-1-output txes are the smallest
09:54 < belcher> to choose the amount you want to burn you make a transaction before to create the exact utxo size you want
09:54 < waxwing> oh right. i think you said that somewhere. yeah makes a lot of sense.
09:54 < belcher> that earlier transaction never needs to be sent to takers
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