--- Log opened Tue May 26 00:00:31 2020 00:09 -!- kristapsk_ is now known as kristapsk 00:31 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has joined #joinmarket 01:15 -!- belcher_ [~user@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 01:29 -!- timsode2 [01ad49e5@1-173-73-229.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has joined #joinmarket 01:33 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:35 < timsode2> when using the joinmarket tumbler, if I output to 'bc1q' addresses does that severely damage privacy since it'd be obvious which utxos are the taker's coins (bc1q...) vs makers (3...)? Or is it not a privacy problem since makers' coins would probably go through additional tumbles whereas taker's coins would eventually be spent. 01:44 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.170.134.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:46 -!- jonatack [~jon@184.75.223.195] has joined #joinmarket 02:17 -!- jonatack [~jon@184.75.223.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:19 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.173.167.96] has joined #joinmarket 02:20 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:22 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has joined #joinmarket 02:45 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:45 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has joined #joinmarket 03:03 -!- Duane2Emmerich [~Duane2Emm@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #joinmarket 03:20 -!- timsode2 [01ad49e5@1-173-73-229.dynamic-ip.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14 -!- viasil [~nobody@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:16 -!- viasil [~nobody@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 04:24 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:15 -!- viasil [~nobody@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:20 -!- viasil [~nobody@134.19.189.124] has joined #joinmarket 05:53 -!- slivera [~slivera@103.231.88.27] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:09 -!- MaxSan [~four@185.156.175.171] has joined #joinmarket 06:24 -!- viasil [~nobody@134.19.189.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:29 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 06:29 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 06:30 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has left #joinmarket [] 07:08 < belcher> any thoughts on why a tumbler user who configured 10 sat/b miner fees was actually paying 200-300 sat/b ? https://www.reddit.com/r/joinmarket/comments/gqj37j/help_with_fee_settings/frv6t5g/?context=3 07:34 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:39 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 08:43 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:48 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 08:54 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.173.167.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:55 -!- jonatack [~jon@137.63.71.51] has joined #joinmarket 08:57 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:04 < kristapsk> belcher, saw that, guess we need to look at code and try to reproduce, I have no idea right now 09:04 < belcher> seems weird as hell 09:13 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 09:21 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:27 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 09:36 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:38 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 09:42 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has joined #joinmarket 10:21 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 11:39 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:44 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 12:03 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:05 -!- azizLIGHT [~azizLIGHT@unaffiliated/azizlight] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:06 < waxwing> wrote a couple of points that might help: https://www.reddit.com/r/joinmarket/comments/gqj37j/help_with_fee_settings/frwebj2/ 12:08 < waxwing> timsode2 is gone, but i don't think there's any final answer to that. i personally would prefer not to do it, it's giving more information than necessary. but it's a complicated question, belcher may have an opinion. 12:09 < belcher> yeah he's gone thats why i didnt reply in case he came back 12:09 < belcher> i think as long as he's using tumbler its ok 12:09 < belcher> the final coinjoin would have some leak from the different address types, but the other 10-14 tumbler coinjoins should stop anyone who can see that final coinjoins from tracking backwards to the source 12:12 < waxwing> i feel like since we have logs we may as well just answer anyway, can always link it 12:15 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 12:15 < belcher> oh yes true 12:16 < kristapsk> it's always definitely better to use P2SH-SegWit destinations, but that's not always possible, and having some coinjoin is better than not having any IMO 12:17 < kristapsk> pavlenex just tweeted about this repo about BTCPay Server - https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver-media/tree/master/Publications, probably good idea to do something similar about JM... 12:23 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has joined #joinmarket 13:11 -!- azizLIGHT [~azizLIGHT@unaffiliated/azizlight] has joined #joinmarket 13:16 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:21 -!- 07IAAHNPE [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 13:25 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:31 -!- Pasha [~Cory@071-013-023-252.res.spectrum.com] has joined #joinmarket 14:02 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:09 -!- opal [~wowaname@volatile/founder/wowaname] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:18 -!- jonatack [~jon@137.63.71.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:19 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.166.165.158] has joined #joinmarket 14:20 -!- opal [~wowaname@volatile/founder/wowaname] has joined #joinmarket 15:06 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:18 -!- Pasha [~Cory@071-013-023-252.res.spectrum.com] has quit [] 15:25 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined #joinmarket 15:37 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has joined #joinmarket 16:42 -!- coconutanna [~coconutan@gateway/tor-sasl/coconutanna] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:56 -!- coconutanna [~coconutan@gateway/tor-sasl/coconutanna] has joined #joinmarket 16:58 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.170.255.11] has joined #joinmarket 17:01 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.166.165.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:21 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p5de4a6ed.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:21 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p5de4a6ed.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:32 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p5de4a0fb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 17:33 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p5de4a0fb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 18:18 -!- opal [~wowaname@volatile/founder/wowaname] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:25 -!- 07IAAHNPE [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:31 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 18:33 -!- opal [~wowaname@volatile/founder/wowaname] has joined #joinmarket 21:47 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:49 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #joinmarket 22:35 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:41 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 23:59 -!- EvanitoC [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket --- Log closed Wed May 27 00:00:32 2020