--- Log opened Mon Jun 08 00:00:44 2020 00:42 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has joined #joinmarket 01:07 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has quit [Quit: jonatack_] 01:23 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has joined #joinmarket 03:07 -!- Samanta79MacGyve [~Samanta79@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #joinmarket 04:01 -!- aguycalled [~user@unaffiliated/aguycalled] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:01 -!- aguycalled [~user@unaffiliated/aguycalled] has joined #joinmarket 04:13 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:14 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has joined #joinmarket 04:40 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:32 -!- boskowski [2e8e0e35@53-14-142-46.pool.kielnet.net] has joined #joinmarket 07:36 -!- slivera [~slivera@103.231.88.26] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:49 -!- e5yu5u5u5u [2d56cba2@45.86.203.162] has joined #joinmarket 09:35 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 09:53 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has joined #joinmarket 10:10 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@cable-84-43-233-231.mnet.bg] has joined #joinmarket 10:21 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:22 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 10:22 -!- boskowski [2e8e0e35@53-14-142-46.pool.kielnet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:27 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:28 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 10:36 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:52 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@cable-84-43-233-231.mnet.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:53 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has joined #joinmarket 11:00 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:03 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@cable-84-43-233-231.mnet.bg] has joined #joinmarket 11:03 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@cable-84-43-233-231.mnet.bg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17 < kristapsk> https://stephanlivera.com/episode/179/ 11:18 < kristapsk> haven't listened to it myself yet 11:37 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has joined #joinmarket 11:41 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:58 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has joined #joinmarket 12:11 < waxwing> thanks. i'm just scanning the transcript rn, although i'll listen later. 12:12 < waxwing> my biggest problem with their prognosis is that they seem to consider that a samourai style coinjoin "solves" the "toxic unmixed change" problem, but i think that's a drastic oversimplification. 12:13 < waxwing> if i have a 100BTC chunk that i want to mix, there is no option to mix it all without change - except ironically in exactly the way that is so problematic in JM 12:13 < waxwing> (ie you can do a sweep tx with no change with the very few JM participants available to offer such a large amount) 12:14 < waxwing> 'no unmixed change' model (let's say extreme of all equal ins all equal outs) has its advantages for sure, but it can't be considered in isolation because it ignores the denomination problem, which then has to be solved elsewhere. 12:39 -!- Samanta79MacGyve [~Samanta79@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:48 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:49 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has joined #joinmarket 13:56 < kristapsk> hmm, https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/519#issuecomment-640606631, user is reporting that JoinMarketQt works fine under Windows without WSL, with a simple change in requirements/gui.txt 14:12 < waxwing> yeah i saw, that was :o 14:14 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dfsjarzdtjaixoop] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:21 -!- e5yu5u5u5u [2d56cba2@45.86.203.162] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:22 -!- abbc [2d56cba2@45.86.203.162] has joined #joinmarket 14:28 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ilaigwvrmumreyqt] has joined #joinmarket 14:40 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:02 -!- coconutanna [~coconutan@gateway/tor-sasl/coconutanna] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03 -!- coconutanna [~coconutan@gateway/tor-sasl/coconutanna] has joined #joinmarket 16:04 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has joined #joinmarket 16:05 -!- MaxSan [~four@185.156.175.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:48 -!- slivera [~slivera@103.231.88.10] has joined #joinmarket 17:05 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p5de4a9e0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:05 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p5de4a9e0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:16 -!- MaxSan [~four@185.156.175.171] has joined #joinmarket 17:19 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p5de4a90e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 17:20 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p5de4a90e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 18:02 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p5de4a90e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:03 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p5de4a90e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:15 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p54866e74.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 18:20 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p54866e74.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 18:24 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:30 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 20:10 -!- abbc [2d56cba2@45.86.203.162] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:34 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ilaigwvrmumreyqt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:34 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:46 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 22:49 -!- viasil [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:55 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has joined #joinmarket 23:24 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:59 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@37.120.141.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] --- Log closed Tue Jun 09 00:00:46 2020