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00:55 < k3tan> has anyone got yield generator to start on boot of machine? or is that not really advised?
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01:48 < DSRelBot> [DS/CatoAlex] that means you'd have to provide the wallet passwort in an automated way, in plaintext somewhere. I advise against that and havent even started to test any automated startup due to this.
01:55 < waxwing> k3tan, i think openoms might have something to say about that. i forget the details of what he's done but see his joininbox project.
02:01 < k3tan> yeah, i was wondering how to input the password in using perhaps a --stdin flag like lnd does
02:02 < k3tan> i knew i'd get some push back on storing my password somewhere in plain text lol
02:04 < waxwing> k3tan, we have a password-from-stdin option
02:05 < waxwing> see the --help ( --wallet-password-stdin)
02:11 < k3tan> waxwing: `python yg-privacyenhanced.py wallet.jmdat --wallet-password-stdin /path/to/passwordfile`
02:11 < k3tan> is that how it would work?
02:15 < waxwing> well no not exactly like that, it reads from stdin
02:15 < waxwing> tbh i never really tried it out but again i think maybe joininbox might help you
02:15 < k3tan> i'll speak with openoms
02:15 < waxwing> well i tried it but just enough to check it works. i mean i never used it in my workflow.
02:16 < waxwing> yeah but i mean it's on his github, i think you'll find it there. or if not, i'm sure someone wrote code using this ...
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05:11 < fluffypony> I tweeted about JM :-P
05:11 < fluffypony> https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1282647686525722625
05:13 < belcher_> iv only heard of "defi" because i keep an eye on twitter, but yeah for the investor it sounds like a more risky, less safe, with-KYC, version of joinmarket
05:14 < belcher_> i think a big reason joinmarket yield-generating isnt as well known is because existing yield-gen operators dont want competition
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07:41 < MaxSan> erm
07:41 < MaxSan> is there an issue sending joins to a native segwit address
07:41 < MaxSan> for reducing the entropy of the tx 
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08:13 < belcher_> MaxSan yes it leaks a bit of information, but if you use the tumbler script or otherwise make multiple coinjoins then the link between coins coming in and coins going out should still be kept private
08:21 < waxwing> has anyone seen this when starting to serve on a hidden service endpoint? "513 Unacceptable option value: Failed to configure rendezvous options. See logs for details."
08:21 < waxwing> it doesn't help that i can't find any tor logs :)
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08:58 < MaxSan> yeah realistically I dont think it makes much difference considering almost every tx I make is via coinjoins lol
09:05 < DSRelBot> [DS/CatoAlex] waxwing, my tor log is located at /var/log/tor/notices.log
09:05 < DSRelBot> [DS/CatoAlex] but never saw this error before
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09:21 < waxwing> AlexCato yes i am finding using txtorcon a bit bewildering at the moment. silly thing is i've done this already for coinswapcs but something is different somewhere, didn't get that error before using code as per https://github.com/AdamISZ/CoinSwapCS/blob/master/coinswap/tor.py
09:30 < waxwing> btw i have nothing at all in /var/log/tor
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11:40 < qubenix> waxwing: check /run/tor/log if you are still looking. not sure what your issue is, but check your system clock is always first thing with tor errors.
11:41 < waxwing> qubenix, thanks. i only have "control  control.authcookie  tor.pid" in /run/tor (when running)
11:42 < waxwing> system clock, i see, could be, how do i do that?
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12:21 < qubenix> waxwing: compare you system time with time.is or similar site. use `date` to fix it if need be. i found my tor logs in whonix with `sudo find . / | grep tor | grep log`
12:23 < DSRelBot> [DS/CatoAlex] or just let it set automatically with some NTP daemon? Is there any risk involved in that which I'm not seeing?
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12:33 < qubenix> CatoAlex: you can see here why patrick/whonix decided to write their own software instead of using ntp: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Sdwdate
12:44 < DSRelBot> [DS/CatoAlex] thanks qubenix!
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14:29 < emzy> waxwing: I think the default logging for tor is via syslog now. /var/log/syslog
14:40 < waxwing> emzy, thanks. indeed, i see an entry in that log for when a connection is first made "Jul 13 22:35:46 waxwing-N85-N87-HJ-HJ1-HK1 Tor[19404]: New control connection opened from 127.0.0.1." but then  nothing else there. the python script is returning the error i mentioned above, after some seconds or minutes.
14:40 < waxwing> "513 Unacceptable option value: Failed to configure rendezvous options. See logs for details."
14:42 < waxwing> looks like it may be a parsing error as per https://github.com/torproject/tor/blob/064e23e95c8d0d0fb762e1cb7699c4bd4c75ecb8/src/feature/control/control_cmd.c
14:42 < waxwing> github kinda screwed up rn :)
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14:44 < emzy> they changed the default fron v2 to v3 hidden services. Manybe that's a problem. 
14:44 < emzy> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/27446
14:51 < waxwing> emzy, does it mean that if you put HiddenService config in /etc/tor/torrc you have to also specify HiddenServiceVersion as well as HiddenServicePort and HiddenServiceDir?
14:52 < emzy> I think so.
14:52 < waxwing> thanks for finding that, it does indeed look like it could very well be related, or it could also note. the dialog in that thread is weird.
14:52 < waxwing> i have no need for v2 onion per se; for all i know, txtorcon, the python package i'm using, supports both (i thought it did).
14:52 < waxwing> my tor version is 0.3.2 .. maybe this is old?
14:53 < emzy> v3 is much better. We also move to v3 for Bisq. Because it is also more reliable.
14:53 < emzy> It's not only the address format.
14:54 < waxwing> sure, but i am only interested in whatever i can get to work, for now. at the moment i only want to test a client so i'm setting up a HS just for that.
14:54 < waxwing> i'm aware of the difference at least in general terms (key size), mostly this is about just getting anything to work :)
14:54 < emzy> I see.
14:56 < waxwing> i don't think the problem is Tor side, it's something wrong with the python package i think (txtorcon), but it was just really hard because i could not find any info on that error message, nor any logs. Tor seems to be very weird about logs :)
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15:00 < emzy> I think txtorcon uses some option that has changed. Your tor version is not that old.
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15:01 < waxwing> hmm yeah i am leaning in that direction too.
15:02 < waxwing> it was working fine 2 years ago, which is the only reason i was surprised it didn't work now :)
15:05 < emzy> file permissions of hiddenServiceDir are right?
15:06 < waxwing> oh; maybe not. what do they need to be?
15:07 < waxwing> oh hang on i think i was trying it with /var/lib/tor/something and set in torrc so i think it's automatic
15:08 < waxwing> yeah this test one is identical to the ones i've already had running for bitcoin and ssh
15:08 < emzy> If it is in the torrc you don't need to do it again via the tor control port
15:08 < emzy> so already in use.
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15:09 < waxwing> indeed, i think the problem is related to that - it may be that txtorcon is not able to recognize the existing config of the existing tor instance and tries to create it again. or something.
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15:16 < emzy> you can have another HS address for the txtorcon
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15:54 < openoms> Is it possible to make JM CoinJoins on testnet?
15:54 < waxwing> openoms, if you set up makers as well as takers it is. i don't know of anyone doing it.
15:55 < openoms> I am trying for a while now with two wallets. Min makers set to 1
15:55 < waxwing> emzy, maybe you misunderstood my 'identical', i only meant that the file permissions and ownership are the same (and the config), not that they're the same. or maybe you didn't.
15:55 < openoms> it seems to freez after sourcing the commitment
15:55 < waxwing> openoms, read TESTING.md and ignore the first line :)
15:56 < waxwing> use regtest, it's much easier. but if you want to use testnet sure we can debug it guess.
15:57 < openoms> ahh, good document, but wanted to try testnet because my aim was to CJ into an LN channel
15:58 < openoms>  My JM is also on latest master. so that might confuse things
15:58 < waxwing> hmm, i dunno. is your joinmarket.cfg adjusted for testnet?
15:59 < emzy> waxwing: hm not shure. To be clear you either have the HS configured in torrc or you use txtorcon. Bouth at the same time will not work.
15:59 < waxwing> 'freeze after sourcing commitment' suggests to me a problem with the irc stuff
15:59 < waxwing> emzy, hmm maybe i got confused about that. i will look at it again, thanks.
16:00 < openoms> @waxwing yes, the wallets are fully functional
16:00 < openoms> here is an output: https://pastebin.com/raw/VDTi0VyZ
16:01 < openoms> it just freeezes after this and cannot even exit gracefully
16:01 < openoms> just getting this trying to close:
16:01 < openoms> ^C2020-07-13 23:12:58+0100 [JMTakerClientProtocol,client] Received SIGINT, shutting down.
16:01 < openoms> ^C2020-07-13 23:13:00+0100 [JMTakerClientProtocol,client] Received SIGINT, shutting down.
16:02 < waxwing> huh i thought i fixed that issue
16:02 < waxwing> sorry late here if you have any more thoughts feel free to jot them down
16:02 < waxwing> also i am backlogged with like 20 different things to do as i was complaining here a few hours ago, lol (just saying it cos it means it might take a while)
16:03 < waxwing> but obv if i think of something from the output i'll let you know
16:03 < openoms> sure, agree it is late. ok, should I open an issue?
16:03 < openoms> there is no urgency in this
16:03 < waxwing> https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/pull/585
16:04 < waxwing> sure
16:05 < openoms> thank you!
16:06 < waxwing> openoms, oh i just had a thought
16:07 < waxwing> type 'y'
16:07 < waxwing> in regtest for some reason i never figured out, it does not print out the prompt ('do you accept?'), it might be the same in testnet (?)
16:08 < openoms> ok, trying :)
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