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02:17 < belcher> what exactly do you mean by sending transactions? do you mean following the joinmarket protocol partially and then halting? or something else
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03:24 < waxwing> that's what podle is there to address netopso (i assume belcher_ 's second sentence is what you mean)
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16:24 < Max88> Hey guys. I just ran the JoinMarket tumbler (using JoinMarketQt via the multiple join interface - all default settings) and later clicked "Abort," but now I'm missing $65 in coins. I tried using wallet-tool.py in case it just wasn't showing unconfirmed tx and the coins still appear to be missing
16:24 < Max88> I also checked the destination addresses and nothing there either. Does anybody have a good idea of what my next step should be?
16:29 < belcher_> Max88 any chance that the $65 was spent on miner fees?
16:30 < Max88> belcher_ I don't think so, since the total I was trying to tumble is only $400
16:31 < Max88> is there a possibility it would take 16%+?
16:31 < belcher_> miner fees arent affected by how much btc value you transacted, but by how much block space you used, and right now the demand for block space is high so it would make sense if it was miner fees
16:32 < belcher_> im reading here 162.694 sat/vb for the next block
16:33 < belcher_> next time you could make the total miner fee lower by setting the txfee parameter in the joinmarket.cfg file to target less, or just set a fixed fee rate like 1 sat/b
16:34 < belcher_> see also https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/blob/master/docs/tumblerguide.md#a-note-on-fees
16:34 < belcher_> in that example it even talks about the numbers $50 in fees, not too far from your $65
16:35 < Max88> Interesting, thanks for that - I had no idea that could happen from just one transaction
16:36 < Max88> I'm still a bit confused, though. my coins went through one transaction before I aborted, and looking at that transaction on blockchain explorer, the total tx fee is less than what I am missing
16:38 < Max88> in any case I am definitely going to use the tumbler more reservedly now
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16:55 < belcher_> Max88 i didnt realize you only made one transaction, if so and if that transaction has a miner fee which isnt $65 then miner fees arent the reason
16:59 < Max88> Well, it's close - the fee for the tx is 0.00572555, but 0.00572645 is what I am actually missing (maybe just a rounding difference?). It's noted as a separate transaction on Bitcoin Core
17:00 < Max88> It could be. I just wasn't expecting default settings and one transaction to be a $65 mistake
17:01 < belcher_> the demand for block space is huge right now
17:02 < Max88> yeah I'm doing some reading on that now and am seeing that
17:03 < Max88> I guess that's why this was so much cheaper a couple months ago
17:04 < belcher_> you could set the fee to something like 1 sat/vb or 10 sat/vb and just wait longer for each confirmation
17:04 < belcher_> it depends how much of a hurry you're in 
17:07 < Max88> that is definitely sounding like the best option. btw I was doing some additional reading and noticed you're one of the devs - really appreciate the help
17:08 < belcher_> np
17:08 < belcher_> going afk, bye for now
17:11 < Max88> take it easy
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