--- Log opened Thu Aug 20 00:00:56 2020 00:40 -!- johnhmay [sid110431@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qceipwxqbizhtosv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:43 -!- johnhmay [sid110431@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has joined #joinmarket 00:46 -!- johnhmay [sid110431@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 00:48 -!- johnhmay [sid110431@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has joined #joinmarket 00:51 -!- johnhmay [sid110431@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 00:55 -!- johnhmay [sid110431@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has joined #joinmarket 01:02 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has joined #joinmarket 01:08 -!- rdymac [uid31665@unaffiliated/rdymac] has joined #joinmarket 01:28 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has joined #joinmarket 01:30 -!- ghost43 [~daer@unaffiliated/daer] has quit [Changing host] 01:30 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #joinmarket 01:30 -!- johnhmay [sid110431@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has quit [Changing host] 01:30 -!- johnhmay [sid110431@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ytpkbkvkttdkbiwf] has joined #joinmarket 01:30 -!- rdymac [uid31665@unaffiliated/rdymac] has quit [Changing host] 01:30 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zildmiswmngjkeeh] has joined #joinmarket 01:56 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:57 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has joined #joinmarket 02:27 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:44 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has joined #joinmarket 03:19 -!- Connor89Parker [~Connor89P@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #joinmarket 04:32 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:44 -!- netopso [~user@cloud608804.fastpipe.io] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:37 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:38 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #joinmarket 06:38 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has joined #joinmarket 06:50 < Davterra> Are there 2 IRC/market channels for redundancy, or does a maker-offer need to be "live" on both channels to be accessible to takers? 06:54 -!- Connor89Parker [~Connor89P@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:57 -!- tralfaz [uid458765@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rkexdiomgwjibawv] has quit [] 07:05 -!- tralfaz [4504ea4c@69.4.234.76] has joined #joinmarket 07:07 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:07 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has joined #joinmarket 07:15 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/AlexCato] it's just for redundancy. The maker needs totally fine if it just uses one of them as well 07:15 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/AlexCato] *works totally fine 07:23 < Davterra> OK, thanks. I continue to see my offer listed when I refresh the orderbook webpage, but for some reason I have trouble keeping my joinmarket offer connected to the hackint network. My IRC client has no problem staying connected 08:01 -!- jules23 [~Adium@pool-68-134-219-181.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #joinmarket 08:02 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 08:02 -!- jules23 [~Adium@pool-68-134-219-181.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has left #joinmarket [] 08:03 -!- jules23 [~Adium@pool-68-134-219-181.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #joinmarket 08:03 -!- jules23 [~Adium@pool-68-134-219-181.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has left #joinmarket [] 08:04 -!- jules23 [~Adium@pool-68-134-219-181.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #joinmarket 08:09 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 08:09 < waxwing> https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/pull/672 08:09 < waxwing> ^ if anyone is of a mind to review. 08:10 < jules23> i'll take a look! 08:10 < waxwing> thanks 08:13 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:28 < waxwing> cool the windows exe build seems to be working fine 08:41 -!- tralfaz [4504ea4c@69.4.234.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:58 -!- tralfaz [uid458765@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tbyjgfoqbxdgicmr] has joined #joinmarket 09:16 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has joined #joinmarket 09:17 -!- barbac [~barbac@pool-68-134-219-181.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #joinmarket 09:18 -!- barbac [~barbac@pool-68-134-219-181.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has left #joinmarket [] 09:19 -!- jules23 [~Adium@pool-68-134-219-181.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has left #joinmarket [] 09:30 < belcher_> someone else on reddit had their exchange censor them because they used equal-output coinjoin https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/i8ye6x/exchange_account_closed_because_of_risk_profile/ 09:50 < belcher_> i found this article interesting and relevant https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-gold-staying-clean i writes about how the gold market is separated into the more-liquid (therefore higher price) LBMA standard bars and the less-liquid everything else 09:53 < belcher_> seems to me the next step is steganographic privacy tech like coinswap and payjoin... and after that when surveillance companies find it impossible to track, then self-custody will just get banned or restricted 09:54 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has joined #joinmarket 09:59 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.9] 10:05 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has joined #joinmarket 10:08 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has quit [Client Quit] 10:08 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has joined #joinmarket 10:12 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has left #joinmarket [] 10:12 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has joined #joinmarket 10:13 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has left #joinmarket [] 10:15 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has joined #joinmarket 11:17 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has quit [Quit: jonatack] 11:24 < waxwing> somewhat; on the last point 'self-custody will just get banned or restricted', it seems to me that's already happened, it just may get worse. 11:24 < waxwing> on the point about equal-out coinjoins "banned", the problem with that was always that you can't know easily whether a person did such a thing a few hops back or not. 11:25 < waxwing> at some point if they continue to insist on this kind of nonsense, users have to accept that they can't deal with that business. 11:25 < waxwing> since it's pretty likely to end up banning people who never even used coinjoin anyway. 11:25 < waxwing> can anybody remember under what circumstances a wallet is created read-only? i think i'm forgetting something 11:25 < waxwing> https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/673 11:33 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:34 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has joined #joinmarket 11:42 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has joined #joinmarket 11:46 < belcher_> read-only is when you run wallet-tool.py to see your balance, iirc 11:49 < waxwing> yup. i just added a comment. i can't see any way it would get activated in yg. 11:49 < waxwing> i *think* he must be doing something weird, but i may have just missed it. 11:53 < waxwing> hmm it may be a bug. for some reason i can't understand or remember, Storage.close() sets read-only to True. 11:55 < waxwing> or .. maybe not. that's been there since the beginning. i guess it kinda makes sense. 11:56 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.9] 11:56 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has joined #joinmarket 12:00 -!- tralfaz [uid458765@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tbyjgfoqbxdgicmr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:00 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has joined #joinmarket 12:19 -!- Tralfaz [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has joined #joinmarket 12:21 < waxwing> https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/releases/tag/v0.7.0 12:21 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:23 -!- Davterra [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has joined #joinmarket 12:25 < waxwing> belcher_, i've done darkscience, if you could do hackint some time, thanks 12:26 -!- Tralfaz [~Davterra@69.4.234.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:38 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:45 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 13:04 < belcher_> done waxwing 13:06 < kristapsk> posted on /r/bitcoin - https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/idhrak/new_release_of_joinmarket_070_includes_bip78/ 13:06 < waxwing> oh nice thanks kristapsk 13:10 < kristapsk> belcher_, you could post about this in a @joinmarket twitter too, I think you are the only one with access 13:12 < belcher_> here https://twitter.com/joinmarket/status/1296540482156322816 13:12 < belcher_> btw do you want access to that account? 13:12 < belcher_> dont remember if i asked before 13:21 -!- tralfaz [4504ea4c@69.4.234.76] has joined #joinmarket 13:30 < kristapsk> belcher_, yes, we talked something about that, likely you forgot later or smth 13:31 < belcher_> oh sorry 13:53 -!- jules23 [~barbac@193.27.13.251] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.9] 14:26 -!- Nora22Conn [~Nora22Con@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #joinmarket 14:35 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:56 -!- tralfaz_ [uid458765@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-urjwrnbkaxphdntj] has joined #joinmarket --- Log closed Fri Aug 21 00:00:55 2020