--- Log opened Wed May 19 00:00:59 2021
00:22 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
00:24 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #joinmarket
00:54 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [Killed (grumble (My fellow staff so-called 'friends' are about to hand over account data to a non-staff member. If you care about your data, drop your NickServ account NOW before that happens.))]
00:54 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #joinmarket
00:54 -!- ServerMode/#joinmarket [+o ChanServ] by services.
01:34 -!- asymptotically [asymptotic@gateway/vpn/mullvad/asymptotically] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:56 -!- ghost43_ [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #joinmarket
01:57 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:19 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
02:47 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:48 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #joinmarket
03:20 -!- Brenna2Ward [~Brenna2Wa@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #joinmarket
04:05 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #joinmarket
04:35 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
05:41 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #joinmarket
06:09 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
06:12 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #joinmarket
06:17 < belcher> i have registered #joinmarket on libera irc just in case
06:41 < openoms> @belcher thanks came here to ask
07:06 < waxwing> belcher, good idea thanks.
07:21 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
07:23 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket
09:06 -!- asymptotically [asymptotic@gateway/vpn/mullvad/asymptotically] has joined #joinmarket
09:08 -!- Brenna2Ward [~Brenna2Wa@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
09:20 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has quit [Quit: Bye]
09:20 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has joined #joinmarket
09:22 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has quit [Client Quit]
09:22 -!- stoner19 [~stoner19@unaffiliated/stoner19] has quit [Quit: keep on keepin' on...]
09:22 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has joined #joinmarket
09:22 -!- stoner19 [~stoner19@unaffiliated/stoner19] has joined #joinmarket
09:25 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
09:27 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has joined #joinmarket
09:35 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
09:41 -!- vrana [~mvranic@gateway/tor-sasl/vrana] has joined #joinmarket
10:51 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
11:14 -!- pigeons [~pigeons@androzani.sysevolve.com] has quit [Quit: Changing server]
11:30 -!- pigeons [~pigeons@androzani.sysevolve.com] has joined #joinmarket
11:47 < Evanito[m]> JM still using IRC pit bulletin board method? And if not what did it get changed with?
11:49 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #joinmarket
11:50 < Evanito[m]> Mostly wondering what the current/planned design is. Been brainstorming a use for a distributed DB using IPFS as the bulletin, and Matrix for encrypted 1:1 or peer communication. Downsides of these approaches are non-zero, of course 😅
11:57 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-45-51-248-108.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket
11:58 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-45-51-248-108.socal.res.rr.com] has left #joinmarket []
12:26 < waxwing> Evanito[m], i guess you haven't seen the scrollback for yesterday, we were just talking about it.
12:26 < Evanito[m]> On it!
12:27 < waxwing> http://gnusha.org/joinmarket/2021-05-18.log
12:27 < waxwing> and the referenced #415
12:51 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
12:51 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #joinmarket
13:09 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has joined #joinmarket
13:18 -!- asy [asymptotic@gateway/vpn/mullvad/asymptotically] has joined #joinmarket
13:19 -!- asymptotically is now known as Guest5692
13:19 -!- Guest5692 [asymptotic@gateway/vpn/mullvad/asymptotically] has quit [Killed (tolkien.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))]
13:19 -!- asy is now known as asymptotically
13:20 -!- core [~core@unaffiliated/core] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
13:21 -!- Anduck [~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
13:22 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
13:22 -!- fluffypony [fluffypony@unaffiliated/fluffypony] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
13:28 -!- Anduck [~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck] has joined #joinmarket
13:29 -!- fluffypony [fluffypony@unaffiliated/fluffypony] has joined #joinmarket
13:29 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
13:29 -!- core [~core@ilya.xxx] has joined #joinmarket
13:29 -!- core [~core@ilya.xxx] has quit [Changing host]
13:29 -!- core [~core@unaffiliated/core] has joined #joinmarket
13:32 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #joinmarket
14:14 -!- asymptotically [asymptotic@gateway/vpn/mullvad/asymptotically] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:05 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-35-188-89.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
15:09 < Evanito[m]> This is a demo an IPFS community member made to show how easy it is to make a distributed chatroom over Pubsub with IPFS. I've previously discussed with belcher (iirc) that their implementation of GossipSub is highly censorship and Sybil resistant. Identification/auth of members can be done with the IPFS peerID which cannot be spoofed. https://bafybeicermx2yhwvxc2yf6wvd3d2ujqugzdldl6dbyjhcpoxt4tjyz7gim.ipfs.dweb.link/
15:14 < Evanito[m]> Then with a custom matrix homeserver, can autogenerate users based off their IPFS peerID and that way both IPFS and Matrix have matching usernames with no need for lookups. (In this design, Matrix is needed for encrypted 1:1 or group communication)
15:18 < waxwing> Evanito[m], thanks, interesting. i see the chat works :)
15:18 < waxwing> i think i'd need to read a bit more about how it works to understand the sybil resistance aspect
15:19 < waxwing> if i'm accessing via https on a normal browser, how is the peerID established?
15:19 < Evanito[m]> Yeah, and I have seen other implementations of this distributed chat that include backlogs, multimedia, etc. All up to implementation
15:19 < Evanito[m]> peerID is spun up by the js-IPFS library
15:19 < Evanito[m]> I'm not sure if it's consistent off the top of my head
15:21 < Evanito[m]> https://blog.ipfs.io/2020-05-20-gossipsub-v1.1/
15:21 < Evanito[m]> https://blog.ipfs.io/gossipsubv1.1-eval-report-and-security-audit/
15:21 < Evanito[m]> First is high level, second is a deep dive and actual testing
15:22 < waxwing> thanks
16:12 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.1]
16:13 -!- openoms [~quassel@gateway/tor-sasl/openoms] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:13 -!- fiatjaf [~fiatjaf@2804:7f2:2a8f:67a2:ea40:f2ff:fe85:d2dc] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
16:14 -!- openoms [~quassel@gateway/tor-sasl/openoms] has joined #joinmarket
16:50 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has joined #joinmarket
18:23 -!- d [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket
18:23 -!- d is now known as Guest48619
18:25 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
19:09 -!- niftynei [~niftynei@104.131.77.55] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in]
19:10 -!- niftynei [~niftynei@104.131.77.55] has joined #joinmarket
19:17 -!- niftynei [~niftynei@104.131.77.55] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in]
19:18 -!- niftynei [~niftynei@104.131.77.55] has joined #joinmarket
19:49 -!- jigawatt [~mcfly@2605:2700:1:100e:dc::f01d] has quit [Quit: McFly out.]
19:49 -!- jigawatt [~mcfly@2605:2700:1:100e:ddb4:196e:c17a:3b92] has joined #joinmarket
19:57 -!- Guest48619 is now known as davterra
20:38 -!- niftynei [~niftynei@104.131.77.55] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in]
20:39 -!- niftynei [~niftynei@104.131.77.55] has joined #joinmarket
21:12 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
21:26 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket
21:28 -!- rojiro [~rojiro@gateway/tor-sasl/rojiro] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:29 -!- rojiro [~rojiro@gateway/tor-sasl/rojiro] has joined #joinmarket
21:56 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:56 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #joinmarket
22:06 -!- fiatjaf [~fiatjaf@2804:7f2:2a8f:67a2:ea40:f2ff:fe85:d2dc] has joined #joinmarket
22:46 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-79-12-190-192.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #joinmarket
--- Log closed Thu May 20 00:00:00 2021