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04:44 < JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/waxwing] testing relay from hackint
04:45 < waxwing> ok should be working now. i put it on #coinswap belcher_ as per your instructions but .. don't think #coinswap is being used on hackint? well, anyway.
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16:45 < JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/nikolai] test
16:46 < JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/nikolai] hello once more
16:52 < JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/nikolai] would like to ask you risks of running multiple yield generators, for example two of them on the same wallet by tricking the check and deleting the wallet lock file. why running two instances of yg? one for minsize=1btc maxsize=20btc for mixdepths 2-3-4 which contain such utxos, and the other one for minsize=0.1btc maxsize=1btc that will scoop
16:52 < JoinMarketRelay> cj change with a greedy setup. what are the risks of doing this, if known?
16:54 < JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/nikolai] i have seen this conversation, which is now quite old - that's why i'm asking. - https://github.com/Joinmarket-Org/joinmarket/issues/693
16:56 < belcher> long term it will make economic sense to run just one maker with a fidelity bond
16:57 < belcher> one people running multiple yieldgens degrades the privacy of joinmarket so i dont want to help you to do it :)
16:57 < belcher> its an interesting though though, running them from the same wallet
16:57 < belcher> thought*
17:54 < JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/nikolai] belcher: you don't need to help me on doing it, i've tested it and it works. and i'm aware it degrades privacy of joinmarket that's why it's not running now. however, i do not see how it degrades privacy in case on yg is running for depth 2 and one is running for depth 0 with much different minsize and maxsize. for example if many small utxos
17:54 < JoinMarketRelay> are in depth 7, then i'd like to run one yg with greediest possible setup with high minsize to join them togeth
17:55 < belcher> it degrades privacy because the same *person* controls both
17:55 < belcher> the taker paid for a coinjoin where N different people need to collude to unmix the coinjoin, but they're actually getting N-1 people or worse
17:59 < JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/nikolai] would you say the same if person X was running two yg, two different wallets on two different machines with completely two different setups. it's still the same person, but if i'm that person and if i don't lurk for other peoples txes.. then how am i hurting somebody. theoretically yes i'm the same person but all variables are different.
17:59 < JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/nikolai] belcher: thanks for the insight. i will think about it. for now - one will suffice
18:00 < belcher> i think its the same thing in this respect if they used two different wallets
18:12 < JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/nikolai] the reason of my first question is .. being afraid of race condition attacks if any could happen while running two yg with a single wallet. will keep one running
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