--- Log opened Sat Jul 03 00:00:55 2021
00:05 -!- reallll is now known as belcher
06:17 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/kristapsk] haven't been looking at the orderbook for some time
06:17 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/kristapsk] "547 orders found by 334 counterparties"
06:17 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/W123456789012345678901234567890] :)
06:22 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/kristapsk] sybil attack likely
06:25 < belcher> what if joinmarket yieldgenerator has just become really popular?
06:26 < belcher> im scrolling down the offers though, theres a huge amount with sized 0.5btc
06:26 < belcher> if you click on "size distribution" and choose log scale that range has a huge spike
06:27 < belcher> they're all asking for a variety of different fees though
06:32 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/kristapsk] it's possible, but number of counterparties is ~ x3 since I last checked
06:33 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/kristapsk] also, big number of counterparties with multiple offers, so it's customized yg code, don't believe so many different people would do that
06:34 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/coinjoin]no public yg by JM project itself does that yet
06:37 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/system]belcher (~user@00020208.user.oftc.net) joins
06:37 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/belcher]bridged to oftc?
06:37 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/coinjoin]yes, why not?
06:37 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/belcher]we already have hackint if people want to use tor
06:38 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/belcher]having a pit channel for bots to join is another thing, thats useful
06:38 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/belcher]we already have a pit on darkscience and agora and nobody really chats in their #joinmarket
06:46 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/W123456789012345678901234567890] i saw, the #joinmarket had not even anymore a channel topic telling people where it went to, so tried idea of bridge between all at once: darkscience, hackint, agora, oftc, freenode
06:47 < belcher> i dont know why people would even go to those other places, when the github and blog only ever say libera and hackint
06:48 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/W123456789012345678901234567890] personally, i didn't join libera yet, because libera required connect without tor (in first place tor blocked)
07:04 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [AGORA/system] N]gNfWrWDnIfOQaJ (UserNick@user.anarplex) joins
07:19 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/torusr] the taker choose and care about only one orders found by each counterparties anyway?
07:26 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/system] belcher (~user@00020208.user.oftc.net) parts
07:26 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [FREENODE/system] viasil (~nobody@freenode-phj.g9u.fpe2o0.IP) joins
07:31 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/belcher] i dont know why you're bridging all those channels, its useless
07:31 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/belcher] especially freenode
07:31 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/coinjoin] ok, how about telegram<==>irc ?
07:32 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/coinjoin] this groups mentioned in readme.md https://t.me/joinmarketorg
07:33 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/belcher] fine i guess
07:34 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/coinjoin] will try add this to the bridge.
07:36 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/JoinMarketChannelBridgeRelayBot] [OFTC/coinjoin] never used that telegram group beforehand. so i may could see what i have missed than. if its not actually dead
07:41 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/kristapsk] not sure it's worth bridging IRC with TG
07:41 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/kristapsk] will be much spam on IRC
07:42 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/belcher] yeah you're right
07:42 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/torusr] TG that active?
07:42 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/kristapsk] on IRC you have developers and other more technical people, on TG it's mostly users
07:43 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/kristapsk] also, how you will brdige all images, quoted replies and other TG specific stuff
07:43 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/torusr] quotes is disabled.
07:44 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/kristapsk] then messages could be often out of context
07:45 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/torusr] true, alternative quote length can have a limit (truncated)
07:46 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/belcher] if people really wanted to see whats on telegram they could join the channel, or vis versa
07:46 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/belcher] the purpose of the bridge between libera and hackint is so that tor users can talk on libera
07:47 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/torusr] can use TG with tor, but disposable phone number not available to all.
07:47 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/torusr] might check TG groups first to see self :)
07:50 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/torusr] no intention to spam that here
07:50 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/torusr] read people ask if JM is active at all, after looking at reddit or forums...
07:51 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/torusr] so did like to try bring the actual few people together
07:54 < belcher> last month joinmarket had a volume of about 16k btc, so its definitely alive, but people just dont always chat about it
07:55 < belcher> earlier on twitter i posted this page which measures them http://bitcoinkpis.com/privacy and realized not that many people know about it
07:56 <+JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/torusr] yes, i see coinjoin output stats here: https://bitcoinkpis.com/privacy#JoinMarket
08:13 < waxwing> belcher,  you probably got pinged on gh, but anyway i think you might find this interesting re testing timelocks: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/pull/872#issuecomment-873421828
08:29 < belcher> be careful with mainnet testing since timelocked scripts are visible on the blockchain
08:29 < belcher> so only send in coins not linked to you
08:29 < belcher> (i mean this for everyone reading not just you)
08:30 < belcher> but yes nice test
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