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00:33 < waxwing> belcher, right. it'll be interesting to plot distributions of time and amount. i think to me the biggest standout number will be more the total number of FB bots .. i want to see it 50++ so a 7/8 ratio still has tons of mixed counterparties.
00:35 < waxwing> i'm kinda hating it that people are using 2023/24 times, even if it's just a couple of #reckless ones .. it's just going to make us be the bad guys if there's ever a compelling enough reason to switch to something new (set aside if the system is still in use, then, at all).
00:36 < belcher> the sybil resistance page on ob-watcher has stats like that which are relevant to takers, so right now if someone does a coinjoin with 7 counterparties and the top 7 counterparties are actually all run by the same person, then that person's chance of successfully being all the makers in a coinjoin is just 7%, and by doing so they'd be giving up 1.4 btc^2 of fidelity bond value (a huge amount given that the total fidelity bond value now is 0.68 btc^2)
00:36 < waxwing> interesting detail: only 1 completely round number size. i'll be curious to check on all the others, how many were no-change transactions.
00:37 < belcher> yeah i checked out that 10btc fidelity bond and he did create a change address
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20:07 < Fontaine> Hi, Im trying to interact with the pit programmatically via the default V3 hidden services provided in the joinmarket.cfg. I always get "network down" when using the v3 endpoint, do they go down from time to time or could the address be expired? The clearnet host works fine. 
20:14 < Fontaine> I see on the webpage for DarkScience its the same v3... I know the tor thread on my end is ok.
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22:05 < JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/the-eht] how does joinmarket handle deprecation of older versions? let's say I forget about my node and it stays on 0.9.1 for 5 years ... what happens?
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23:21 < belcher_> the-eht it doesnt really handle it
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23:21 < belcher> theres no auto-update mechanism or anything like that, so your joinmarket instance would just keep running or crash for those 5 years
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