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01:19 < belcher> some of the high-valued FBs have disappeared in the last few days, i wonder whats up with that
01:19 < belcher> the 124btc bond, i remember one with 11btc too
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01:49 < JMBridge> [oftc/coinjoin] "btw all those 231 non-FB makers might actually be run by the same person" no, no proof of that. I vote against this. in theory yes, but there is some evidence to suggest that this is not the case. therefore i am not accusing them of being the same person/source.
01:49 < JMBridge> [oftc/coinjoin] "btw all those 231 non-FB makers might actually be run by the same person" no, no proof of that. I vote against this. in theory yes, but there is some evidence to suggest that this is not the case. therefore i am not accusing them of being the same person/source.
01:49 < JMBridge> [oftc/coinjoin] "btw all those 231 non-FB makers might actually be run by the same person" no, no proof of that. I vote against this. in theory yes, but there is some evidence to suggest that this is not the case. therefore i am not accusing them of being the same person/source.
01:58 < belcher> the JMBridge bot has relayed your message 3 times instead of once
01:59 < belcher> it wouldnt cost much money to run all 231 non-FB makers... the attacker just needs to put bitcoins in their wallets and when they finish the attack they still have those bitcoins
02:00 < belcher> theres also some proof in that a few people on reddit over time have admitted to running multiple bots to increase profits, and also occasionally iv noticed 7-8 bots all connect and disconnect at the same time indicating they share an internet connection
02:00 < JMBridge> [oftc/coinjoin] Oops, sorry for that.
02:00 < JMBridge> [oftc/coinjoin] The 124btc bond: http://mempoolhqx4isw62xs7abwphsq7ldayuidyx2v2oethdhhj6mlo2r6ad.onion/address/bc1qeqa9q9a75ks935323f58l9vmjtkp47xncpq6fyxqnf5exukpl2jshgaczk
02:02 < JMBridge> [oftc/coinjoin] I don't want to deny that a few will or have done it. I have also caught a few where I am pretty sure. but the assumption that all are the same, I personally find a bit exaggerated. although I must agree with you that we can of course never know for sure.
02:02 < belcher> yeah the utxo is still unspendable, so its doing no good to it's owner, thats why i expected the maker advertising it will mostly be online
02:10 < JMBridge> [oftc/coinjoin] The connect and disconnect, could also be a coincidence, if it's not always the same offer parameters from the same disconnect groupings. since most YG run over tor and irc server too, they may end up selecting the same tornode, that can go down often for many reasons timeouts/overload/ddos/upgrades/bwhibernating and so on. an irc server onion service selects only 3 entry points by default, als…
02:10 < JMBridge> [oftc/coinjoin] o the connection to that circuit at
02:10 < JMBridge> [oftc/coinjoin] any node can be lost at any time. which would look like a partial netsplit. Number of introduction points the hidden service will have Default: 3
02:12 < JMBridge> [oftc/coinjoin] Well, obvivously not valid if they reconnect at all the different IRC servers available, than you could assume they share the same connection. yes
02:16 < JMBridge> [oftc/coinjoin] But even if it were the case, an economically motivated sybil would do far less harm, than an malicious attempt to unmix through multiple participation.
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02:35 < belcher> yes you're right the dis/connections could be explained by tor as well
02:35 < belcher> id expect tor nodes are quite stable though
02:36 < undeath> in my experience persistent tor connections hardly ever last more than maybe 10h
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22:54 < JoinMarketRelay> [hackint/Wukong] Sorry if this has already been asked before, but my ob-watcher can't see any orders right now. Is it a known issue?
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23:45 < openoms[m]> <JoinMarketRelay> "[hackint/Wukong] Sorry if this..." <- try restarting it. This public one looks good: https://nixbitcoin.org/obwatcher/
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