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09:22 < Nicolas010> Hi, i have question about joinmarket usage. What are external adreses used in mixdept 2 for example?
09:24 < undeath> those are mostly useful when migrating from a different joinmarket wallet, to keep mixdepths
09:25 < Nicolas010> Ok, i have another question
09:26 < Nicolas010> So i want to tumble, and in usage it says i should fund 3 or more adress. Should it always be from once source? Or i can fund addr1 with source1 addr2 with source2 etc..
09:26 < Nicolas010> But then i am mixing multiple sources and that can be bad right?
09:28 < Nicolas010> Would better practice be, fund 3 addr from source1, wait for joinmarket to coinjoin to mixdept 1, then fund mixdept0 with source2 ?
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09:48 < undeath> yes, if you have mulitple sources that should not be linked together you need to move all funds out of mixdepth 0 before funding from a different source
09:49 < undeath> funding three or more addresses is a recommendation but in most cases you can get away with only funding a single one
09:50 < undeath> if multiple coinjoins fail for whatever reason makers may blacklist the commitment sourced from your funded address, having mulitple funded addresses gives joinmarket a fallback mechanism
09:51 < Nicolas010> Ok, so source one to 3+ addr for above reasons
09:52 < Nicolas010> Is it possible to control with cmd to only thumble coins from mixdepth 0 to mixdepth 1 and then stop? so i can fund mixdepth 0 with second source?
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09:55 < undeath> yes, you can use the -M option of the tumbler script for that purpose
09:56 < Nicolas010> ok, thank you alot for explaining that!
09:56 < undeath> yw!
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09:57 < undeath> uh, already left
09:58 < undeath> wanted to mention that only mixing a single mixdepth only has limited privacy guarantees
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10:15 < undeath> good you're back Nicolas010, an important addition to what I said earlier
10:15 < Nicolas010> Yes?
10:16 < undeath> mixing only a single mixdepth only has limited privacy guarantees, it may still be possible to link two separate input sources thoughout only one mixdepth step
10:17 < undeath> depending on how important it is for you that those two cannot be linked together you will have to go through a full tumbler cycle for proper privacy guarantees
10:18 < Nicolas010> I understand that, but then there is no way to increase final utxo privately? If i have 1btc on source1, and 2 btc on source 2, i have to end up with 6 final utxos
10:21 < Nicolas010> Coinjoining source 1 from mixdepth 0 to 2 and then wait? and then fund with source 2 to mixdepth 0, should result in pretty good privacy?
10:21 < undeath> two mixdepths is better than one but ideally you'd mix everything up to mixdepth five before adding a new source
10:22 < undeath> er, I believe that's mixdepth four, starting at zero
10:22 < Nicolas010> I know, i am trying to order some of my sources and reduce utxos privetly, i really dont wont to x3 my utxos lol
10:25 < Nicolas010> Quick question about -M option. Do i need to enter destination addresses then? If i only want coinjoin from mixdepth 0 to mixdepth 1/2?
10:26 < undeath> you could mix from mixdepth four to mixdepth zero (or five), which should reduce your total number of utxos in the end
10:26 < undeath> intermediately there will be quite a few
10:30 < undeath> yes, you can simply omit destination addresses in the tumbler
10:30 < Nicolas010> Ok, you helped alot :)
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