--- Day changed Mon Aug 10 2015 00:28 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:26 -!- CoinMuncher [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has joined #lightning-dev 02:45 -!- btcdrak [uid52049@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wzrcmngttnbhjueo] has joined #lightning-dev 04:31 -!- mjerr [~mjerr@p578EA5C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:07 < kanzure> hmm it is inconvenient that rusty does not have a scrollback 06:25 < CoinMuncher> yeah and the logging link doesn't work either 07:48 -!- heath [~heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #lightning-dev 08:11 < kanzure> hello heath 08:30 -!- mjerr [~mjerr@p578EA5C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lightning-dev 09:50 < aj> kanzure: people who don't have scrollback are just begging for you to email them random idea imo 09:51 < kanzure> sure i'll spam everyone's inbox all day with onion routing magic 09:51 < aj> kanzure: well, there's lightning-dev if you want to spam /everyone/ not just rusty 10:35 -!- weefinger [63084175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.8.65.117] has joined #lightning-dev 11:02 -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@static-64-223-246-218.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #lightning-dev 12:56 -!- CoinMuncher [~jannes@178.132.211.90] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:44 -!- mjerr [~mjerr@p578EA5C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:03 < kanzure> aj: good reply but i think his scenario was "i have 11 BTC on the blockchain" unfortunately (and presumably not in commitment transactions) 14:04 < aj> kanzure: sigh, i read "on-chain" as "on-channel" 14:05 < kanzure> too bad, he'll have to suffer reading through this good email 14:17 < aj> okay, did an addition, now i'm going to sleep 14:17 < aj> thanks for the catch! 14:32 < gwillen> kanzure: I think the original message reflects a total lack of understanding of how lightning works 14:33 < gwillen> I'm not sure how one would correct it in a way that does not get a response of "that's a bunch of extra work, why would I do that" 15:08 < kanzure> onion routing does not seem likely to work here because you would need a central directory 15:09 < kanzure> i think there might be a tradeoff between transactional privacy and network topology privacy, but any solution that preserves both should be preferred 15:49 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 15:49 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Client Quit] 15:55 -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@static-64-223-246-218.port.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05 -!- CodeShark [~textual@cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 17:23 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 18:20 -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@c-73-142-181-219.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 19:16 -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@c-73-142-181-219.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [] 19:33 -!- go1111111 [~go1111111@104.200.154.22] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:56 -!- CodeShark_ [~androirc@cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 19:57 * rusty must stop reading Reddit threads on blocksize... 21:38 -!- btcdrak [uid52049@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wzrcmngttnbhjueo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:44 -!- Janaka-Steph [~Janaka-St@che77-1-82-238-24-26.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lightning-dev