--- Day changed Thu Feb 11 2016 00:02 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 00:10 -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@2602:304:cff8:1580:bd7d:1c91:2a8d:9bd7] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:28 -!- roidster [~chatzilla@97-90-24-187.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.39/20151103191810]] 00:31 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@f055029204.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #lightning-dev 00:31 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@f055029204.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Changing host] 00:31 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 01:28 -!- qlql [2e3b026a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.59.2.106] has joined #lightning-dev 01:56 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@2602:304:cff8:1580:b8e2:1c9c:fe32:8ba2] has joined #lightning-dev 02:54 -!- adnn_ [adnn@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-ejtzabppdwjizjoj] has joined #lightning-dev 02:56 -!- adnn [~adnn@cpe-158-222-198-108.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:01 < qlql> I recall Joseph Poon initially suggesting using the blockchain as a sort of routing table. Look for transactions that are open channels and connect the dots to form a route. Is this something that is still being considered? 03:15 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #lightning-dev 03:16 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 03:42 -!- wasi [~wasi@25.22.3.213.static.wline.lns.sme.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:57 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #lightning-dev 05:16 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 05:30 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #lightning-dev 05:52 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 05:56 -!- jtimon [~quassel@126.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 06:42 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #lightning-dev 06:53 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 07:07 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #lightning-dev 07:07 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 07:14 -!- roidster [~chatzilla@97-90-24-187.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #lightning-dev 07:15 -!- roidster is now known as Guest80655 07:15 -!- Guest80655 is now known as roidster 07:36 -!- bityogi [~textual@208-104-143-200.brvd.dsl.dyn.comporium.net] has joined #lightning-dev 07:54 -!- Lauda [~Lauda@133.ip-92-222-169.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:00 -!- Lauda [~Lauda@2001:41d0:52:a00::d36] has joined #lightning-dev 08:00 -!- Lauda is now known as Guest41929 08:09 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #lightning-dev 08:09 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:37 -!- sugarpuff [sid92283@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fyoevqrijkvgkvgf] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:37 -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@2602:304:cff8:1580:b8e2:1c9c:fe32:8ba2] has joined #lightning-dev 08:37 -!- jlyndon [sid10913@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxrphsoiwnmgnuau] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:37 -!- btcdrak [uid115429@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wxmabpmrqhklrimy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:38 -!- NewLiberty [~NewLibert@2602:304:cff8:1580:b8e2:1c9c:fe32:8ba2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:39 -!- bityogi [~textual@208-104-143-200.brvd.dsl.dyn.comporium.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 11:54 -!- bityogi [~textual@66-191-180-79.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #lightning-dev 12:04 -!- NewLiberty_ [~NewLibert@2602:304:cff8:1580:b8e2:1c9c:fe32:8ba2] has joined #lightning-dev 12:05 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@128-79-141-196.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 12:18 -!- Guest28563 is now known as Lauda 12:20 < instagibbs> someone have the link to email about hiding R values from intermediaries? 12:24 -!- bityogi [~textual@66-191-180-79.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Bootstrap will be simpler, but long run is harder... 21:06 -!- adnn [~adnn@cpe-158-222-198-108.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 21:10 -!- lightningbot` [supybot@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fedf:3a06] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:10 -!- lightningbot [supybot@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fedf:3a06] has joined #lightning-dev 21:10 -!- jl2012 [uid133844@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-euspmlsssclyckwf] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:25 -!- jl2012 [uid133844@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wieprzlbnlwwdzpw] has joined #lightning-dev 21:51 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:03 -!- roidster [~chatzilla@97-90-24-187.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.39/20151103191810]] 23:48 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]