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(master...patch02) https://git.io/viMJ5 05:31 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:52 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:00 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.224] has joined #lightning-dev 06:11 -!- giuseppegalano [~giuseppeg@85.159.196.243] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:23 -!- giuseppegalano [~giuseppeg@85.159.196.243] has joined #lightning-dev 06:23 -!- giuseppegalano [~giuseppeg@85.159.196.243] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:23 -!- giuseppegalano [~giuseppeg@85.159.196.243] has joined #lightning-dev 06:30 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.224] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 06:44 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lightning-dev 06:45 -!- giuseppegalano [~giuseppeg@85.159.196.243] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:46 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.224] has joined #lightning-dev 06:46 -!- giuseppegalano [~giuseppeg@85.159.196.243] has joined #lightning-dev 06:50 -!- giuseppegalano [~giuseppeg@85.159.196.243] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:55 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@80.215.178.224] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 07:07 -!- giuseppegalano [~giuseppeg@85.159.196.243] has joined #lightning-dev 07:17 -!- wraithm [~textual@205.197.160.100] has joined #lightning-dev 07:58 -!- giuseppegalano [~giuseppeg@85.159.196.243] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:59 -!- giuseppegalano [~giuseppeg@85.159.196.243] has joined #lightning-dev 08:05 -!- giuseppegalano [~giuseppeg@85.159.196.243] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:41 < dabura667> NicolasDorier: just curious of your input... could openasset protocol be easily included in the lightning network? Like a separate network where they only open channels with enough BTC to pay for fees, and they only update the openassets attributed to each output instead of updating the satoshis on the outputs. 08:41 < dabura667> anyone else with insight feel free to answer. Thanks. 08:45 -!- molz [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lightning-dev 08:49 -!- moli [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:49 < dabura667> maaku rusty: in re: your August 10th discussion about non-bitcoin users on LN. I personally think that companies like Coinbase will gladly open a small channel of like 50 cents for a new user and risk the loss of bitcoin transaction fees so that the user can start receiving micropayments and get hooked into the economy... it's a chicken and egg thing... but 08:49 < dabura667> I think BitGo x Brave browser x local exchange type model will eventually turn into [Any Browser] x [LN hub provider]. Basically, the user installs the browser, gets a popup saying "sign up for your local payment hub to start earning money by browsing!" and they sign up with email and password. Locally the browser generates the keys, tells them to write down 08:49 < dabura667> a phrase for backup, and it connects a LN channel with the hub. Customer $0, Payment Hub $0.50... Eventually, they start receiving payments from browsing, and now you have a huge market full of people with little "Balance: $0.23" icons on their browser not knowing what to do with it. 08:50 < dabura667> then comes the micropayment economy to provide ways to get at that money. Payment Hubs win, users win, digital content merchants win... kinda reminds me of when hotmail started offering free email and "freemail" became a buzzword. 08:51 < dabura667> A lot of bootstrapping needed. Advertisers get on board to paying users a cut. Merchants getting on board to sell goods. 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